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22 minutes ago, TheIronSheik said:

Not every addition to the game has to be meta changing.

Agreed, which is why I said it doesn’t really matter if it were to happen or not. 
 

22 minutes ago, TheIronSheik said:

While SS would probably outclass unlocked LK38 in typical play, I can see a huge benefit of it being used against Falz invincible mode. I firmly believe that by giving different weapons certain use-case advantages, it adds diversity to the game.

I agree sort of. That’s a pretty niche case and I’m sure it’d be worth carrying for that (maybe?). I’d like to point out that Ultima already has INSANE weapon diversity.

 

HUcast inventory for example I already roll around with 2 Dark Flows, 2 Vjayas, 2 Diska of Bravemen / Slicer of Vengeance, 2 Serene Swans, 1 Psycho Raven, 1 Type ME/Mechgun, 1 Twin Blaze, 1 Lavis Blade and then I have 1 of Asteron Striker / Morolian Blaster and 1 of Kiss of Death / Boomerang.


That’s 14 weapons and there’s really still room for more because I don’t carry around a full PR set like I probably should. No Zal Gun or S-Reds either. No Excalibur (typically). No TJS, Bombchu, Crush Cannon, Daylight Scar, Fury of the Beast, Ten Year Blades, Black King Bar or any of the other weapons that I could be carrying.
 

That’s enough to literally have a 30/30 inventory of just weapons. It’s true I could slim down and not carry sets but I’d have to visit the bank a lot more. 

 

Mind you that Armor / Shield / Units / Mag is an additional 7 inventory spaces that you pretty much must have. Then there’s consumables which I typically carry at the least Dimate, Trimate, Sol / Moon Atomizer, and Telepipes. Another 5 slots for a total of 12 slots for non-weapons. I happen to also keep V502 in my inventory because there’s places to swap to it in most quests. 13 slots for me before getting to weapons. 
 

TLDR: There’s already a lot of weapons. 

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5 minutes ago, nnorton44 said:


What are your thoughts on Destiny then 😂

Some of the stuff they’ve got is admittedly really cool. There was a time when I thought they were pretty cool as a whole. Now I feel like they’ve gone too far off the path of what PSO feels like to me.
 

Additionally they’re thieves and generally I don’t trust their staff seeing as Broomop (convicted cyber criminal) and Mylandra (partially responsible for a summer of DDoSing and gore porn spamming on Ultima) are listed as developers. 
 

They’ve pretty much changed Destiny to be something not PSO and I’m no longer a fan of the gameplay. 

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18 hours ago, Saber +7 said:

At this point I don't think LK would be better than any of the other options.

In fact, that is actually a good reason to make it.

I think Larva and Saith didn't want it specifically because it would have been overpowered.

Now that we have Serene Swan, it would not hurt to have an unlocked L&K38 with 1 ATP, 1 ATA (and eventually forbidden to Hucasts) as well.

New weapons that have unique behavior or abilities in their kind (rather than just some common type weapons with ridiculous ATP) that are not game balance breaking are what I am looking for.

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4 hours ago, R-78 said:

In fact, that is actually a good reason to make it.

I am not sure about that. First perhaps the use of the weapon as is should be evaluated?

 

4 hours ago, R-78 said:

Now that we have Serene Swan, it would not hurt to have an unlocked L&K38 with 1 ATP, 1 ATA (and eventually forbidden to Hucasts) as well.

This would actually be nerfing it??? I know the weapon doesn't see much use here now cause Serene Swan, but before Serene Swan a hit LK was / is essentially a ranged DF. It had uses in nearly every quest and was a staple of a TA inventory. Depending on your Shifta level it's capable of 1H tons of different enemies across all 3 episodes from quite a solid range.

 

Is ruining what once was and technically what it still is for a shitty rafoie minigun really worth it? I think not. If people were to want a LK that can shoot Falz it should be a new weapon that doesn't completely ruin the actual use of LK.

 

You can see how LK COULD be used in team play. Even though Ultima does now have better options if it were to ever be utilized in this method it'd be 100000000000000000000000000000000x better than a Rafoie gun. There's nothing actually stopping it from being used as displayed in the video either. 

 

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Do you have a timestamp for the video? Not interested in watching ten minutes of it.

 

Whilst it may come up in TA, I've not seen anyone use it in normal gameplay in all the time I've been playing PSO. When locked, it's outclassed by almost any other long range weapon. 

 

I'd also point out my idea was using a combo item on an L&K, meaning the original would still be in the game to use however you wanted. It honestly annoys me that most of the arguments people make were addressed in the numerous posts I've made about the item. People just look at it as "hurr durr unlock the L&K because it'd be awesome LOLOL".

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21 minutes ago, Harvest said:

Do you have a timestamp for the video? Not interested in watching ten minutes of it.

Even though we use LK pretty consistently used throughout the run sure I will timestamp it during this run and perhaps a couple others. I don't want to link the probably 50+ runs of LK use that exist so here's a few. In longer runs on Vanilla and pre-Serene Swan it is common to carry a full set of LKs.

 

If you start here you'll see a few spawns of LK use in the next minute or so.

 

 

If you start here you'll see some LK and throughout the whole run. 

 

Again we use it here.

 

21 minutes ago, Harvest said:

Whilst it may come up in TA, I've not seen anyone use it in normal gameplay in all the time I've been playing PSO. When locked, it's outclassed by almost any other long range weapon. .

It's a lot more common on Ephinea because they don't have Serene Swan, but before Serene Swan only a few of us from Chosen Few were using it on Ultima as you see in these videos. In terms of TA it's sort of a new thing (last 4ish years or so) because no one thought to use it because it requires really high hit to be any decent. That's obviously not an issue on Ultima. Even when locked it's often times the best ranged weapon available (before Swan).

 

21 minutes ago, Harvest said:

I'd also point out my idea was using a combo item on an L&K, meaning the original would still be in the game to use however you wanted. It honestly annoys me that most of the arguments people make were addressed in the numerous posts I've made about the item. People just look at it as "hurr durr unlock the L&K because it'd be awesome LOLOL".

Ah well then that's cool if people really want to hunt a combiner for a 1 ATP 1 ATA Rafoie gun I don't see the harm really (feels like a wasted opportunity imo, but whatever). It's been some time since I've read any posts relating to the exact specifics of your idea, so sorry if you're having to repeat yourself.

 

As I've been saying I am not for or against the idea as at this point. Serene Swan is probably just better. All the same to me. 

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2 hours ago, Saber +7 said:

This would actually be nerfing it??? I know the weapon doesn't see much use here now cause Serene Swan, but before Serene Swan a hit LK was / is essentially a ranged DF. It had uses in nearly every quest and was a staple of a TA inventory. Depending on your Shifta level it's capable of 1H tons of different enemies across all 3 episodes from quite a solid range.

 

Is ruining what once was and technically what it still is for a shitty rafoie minigun really worth it? I think not. If people were to want a LK that can shoot Falz it should be a new weapon that doesn't completely ruin the actual use of LK.

 

I think there was a misunderstanding.

Harvest's idea was not about modifying the existing L&K38 Combat, it was a new weapon eventually made from a combiner with the former.

So you can choose to have the unlocked version with nerfed ATP or keep the original form with increased ATP but combo locked.

(Just like how combining Master Raven for Dual Bird actually decreases its ATP in favor of combo unlocking)

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