Terrybriggs711 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 8 hours ago, Saber +7 said: I think this is a really poor evaluation of things. It’s unlikely the population was ever tied to the fact we “could” rmt. I’d also like to point out rmt was never just allowed. There were grey areas that were left unaddressed during certain periods like gift cards or RuneScape gold. In general though rmt has always been forbidden. either way it dont matter to me , i dont even play here , but i do have 10k dt+ worth of max gear rotting away in my banks , and I can be 100% positive the average player here would want to buy them for a heavliy discounted rwt price . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ink Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Terrybriggs711 said: when this was allowed there was 100-200 players on the sever and I cant remember hackers and dupers crawlling out of the "woodwork" that was never a problem , 99% of those rwt trade where done right on forums with trusted veteran players I will think you will find this sort of thing was never really condoned on and it just happened. i think you will find it is illegal to sell content of not owned copyright as in to make profit , reason being we donate instead. Magic word being donate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrybriggs711 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ink said: I will think you will find this sort of thing was never really condoned on and it just happened. i think you will find it is illegal to sell content of not owned copyright as in to make profit , reason being we donate instead. Magic word being donate here some sources that show it was allowed fully in the past , it didnt really just happen it was permitted https://www.phantasystaronline.net/forum/index.php?/topic/29274-s-items-for-steam/#comment-174115 https://www.phantasystaronline.net/forum/index.php?/topic/29241-selling-items-for-steam/#comment-173874 https://www.phantasystaronline.net/forum/index.php?/topic/29336-sgoodies-for-steam-stuff/#comment-174765 Edited February 12, 2023 by Terrybriggs711 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ink Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, Terrybriggs711 said: here some sources that show it was allowed fully in the past , it didnt really just happen it was permitted https://www.phantasystaronline.net/forum/index.php?/topic/29274-s-items-for-steam/#comment-174115 https://www.phantasystaronline.net/forum/index.php?/topic/29241-selling-items-for-steam/#comment-173874 https://www.phantasystaronline.net/forum/index.php?/topic/29336-sgoodies-for-steam-stuff/#comment-174765 Here's one that wasn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrybriggs711 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, ink said: Here's one that wasn't that is from this year , and its cleary not allowed anymore , thats why my orignal comment in this thread was simply "bring back rwt" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saber +7 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Right so, what you’ve shown as proof is the grey area I mentioned. The rules did not always explicitly forbid that type of transaction. They have ALWAYS outlawed straight up money for gear. That was simply a workaround that we got away with for a while. What it really sounds like by your own admission is that you’re just looking to sell your gear, not that you think this rule has much impact on server population. For the record all servers have similarly strict rmt policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrybriggs711 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, Saber +7 said: Right so, what you’ve shown as proof is the grey area I mentioned. The rules did not always explicitly forbid that type of transaction. They have ALWAYS outlawed straight up money for gear. That was simply a workaround that we got away with for a while. What it really sounds like by your own admission is that you’re just looking to sell your gear, not that you think this rule has much impact on server population. For the record all servers have similarly strict rmt policies. I dont care to sell all my gear , as always on this sever any topic posted turns into somthing it wasnt, My only point was , bring it back would increase the player base. I mean people still sell items in privite and break the rules all the time . yes 99.9% of games do not allow it . I get it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrybriggs711 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Saber +7 said: Right so, what you’ve shown as proof is the grey area I mentioned. The rules did not always explicitly forbid that type of transaction. They have ALWAYS outlawed straight up money for gear. That was simply a workaround that we got away with for a while. What it really sounds like by your own admission is that you’re just looking to sell your gear, not that you think this rule has much impact on server population. For the record all servers have similarly strict rmt policies. we just forget about that one time it was re-allowed for several highend players to rwt bc they were quiting? so even if i did want to sell my gear would that negate the fact that more people would play if they had a chance to make something out of time spent? Edited February 12, 2023 by Terrybriggs711 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapxthebest Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Don't know if posted yet but when green names are enabled it would be nice to have to the option to toggle it off or on during those times for very obvious reasons lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-78 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zapxthebest said: Don't know if posted yet but when green names are enabled it would be nice to have to the option to toggle it off or on during those times for very obvious reasons lol. I asked Larva about this a while ago. Edit: just asked again, he approved. Edited March 8, 2023 by R-78 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudkipzjm Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Some stuff other severs have that'd be nice to have here: All recovery items in shop Lobbying without a quest Fast Bursting Being able to have more than 4 characters per account Being able to have more than 999,999 meseta in a bank Some of this stuff has existed for a few years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-78 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 All recovery items in shop Undoubtedly a great QOL to have. Lobbying without a quest As far as I know, this is made artificially in 3 steps 1) Warp to pioneer II if initially on Ragol (not sure about this one) 2) Start a quest 3) Immediately exit the quest (Qexit) So that'd still make 2 extra loadings for returning to lobby which would feel... a bit weird? That aside, I don't like how it would make CCA farming more broken than it already is on Ultima. Fast Bursting I really wanted to see fast bursting, but this has a similar issue to the previous point... While the time gain would be pretty much insignificant (although definitely welcome) to anyone who runs long quests, such time gain is going to be huge for "early resets". I hate how some quests make it "play first room then /lobby" the most efficient way to grind stuff (PPP for Merikles, MA4 for Rappies, MADesert for Merissa/Girtablulus, LHB for Del Lilies etc...) so I really don't want to encourage that practice even more by making it even more OP and removing the top reason for NOT doing that. Being able to have more than 4 characters per account Was mentionned in staff on August 2019, Soly said it was tedious and sadly didn't get back on this. Being able to have more than 999,999 meseta in a bank This is not going to happen as long as meseta rooms are still a thing. The same players would stay forever in the room since they'd want to fill all their banks, and one can only drop/pick 999,999 meseta a time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saber +7 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Please no fast bursting. It ruins TA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobotomy Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 "All recovery items in shop Undoubtedly a great QOL to have." Just this would be great already. No hate on Lemon's, but having to go there to fill your stuff each time feels horribly tedious. It's also annoying for many other reasons, such as when u and ur squad are short on time but they have to wait for you (or anyone) to visit Lemon's and the like. And Lemon's is still useful to trade PDs for PSs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudkipzjm Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Saber +7 said: Please no fast bursting. It ruins TA. you can toggle it off as far as i know, just know one does it because who wants to wait 2-3 seconds at every loading screen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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