That is indeed a very long post and probably the best one on this thread. If I was going to lock this I already would've y'all are free to destroy this topic as much as y'all want. I suppose I will give a final reply addressing as many of R78s points as possible.
I am going to busy for at least the next few months. I only am playing a little bit of PSO at the moment, and have no interest in working with something like this in that time frame. I also wanted to dump all my Ultima items by now as well (in a way I feel/felt was/is worthy). I also was interested in participating in my own event and was trying to but we had issues. I would have dumped the items to the other 3 if we won.
I am not interested in a middle ground really. I wanted one (only one set) of players to receive every item of value on my accounts.
I view my items as a collection and am not interested in breaking it up in more than 4P and even 4P is already spreading it thin. If y'all feel so strongly about receiving something for the time y'all spent feel free to take the remainder of my DTs. I truly wish this had turned into a true competition because that's what it was intended to be. Never in Ultima has a prize pool so large ever been up for grabs (maybe 2011 65 DT custom items is the only rival) and I wanted to see competition in the hunt for the prize. I am still fairly blown away that not a single other group of 4 was able to submit something as the items are extremely unique and valuable here.
Your runs certainly blow all old times out of the water and that in itself is impressive to me, they're clean for the time given and amount practiced. It's no doubt they're done in style I do not value and that's no secret. The quest pool was voted on by the players. I didn't chose it. I included 3 selections of what I felt were easy, medium, and hard quests. The time frame for the event was posted in tandem with the poll so perhaps the voters should have considered the difficulty in relation to the time allowed (I know you didn't vote). This event was supposed to be in my opinion particularly freeing to the players. They could chose the quest, play with any team, and didn't even have to actually have gear because the test server was an option.
I know 4P is hard to get and that's why I/we were unable to participate. RoW is probably the hardest quest on PSO and anyone who clears it should feel at least a little happy. The list of players to clear is fairly small in the grand scheme.
The rule was there and no one really gripped much about it at the time. I do admit I did not think of the influence the rule would've had on voting if it was there, but I have a slight feeling the outcome would be the same.
I waited to add the rule because I had not thought of it until after the initial posting. I know it's not the case but imagine if only one or two teams posted and they just barely cleared each of these quests and all the sudden I reigning a poor set of runs the ultimate prize. That just isn't what this event was intended to be. The desired outcome was at the minimum mildly competitive times and back n forth between teams making improvements.
I did think about the minimum waves cleared and enemies killed thing, but there's so many videos of clears of these quests combined with test server that I ultimately decided players SHOULD be finishing these runs.
I hadn't thought of this rules impact on votes, and that's definitely a mistake. I do have a feeling that the outcome would still be the same as people seemingly picked the hardest quest line without considering: difficulty, time, or rule-set. So why would they have considered the submission minimum. Additionally most of these voters didn't even participate so they care even less about the rule. I know there were a few people looking to that just couldn't compile a full group, and that blows.
I want to give away my entire collection to a group of players that were able to truly compete. Not a subset of items or single items, but the whole thing. I know y'all posted your runs, but no one else did which pretty much just fucks y'all. I didn't and don't feel satisfied giving any number of items unless the conditions were met and the winners were proper.
I wouldn't be happy.
I doubt there will ever be another TA event here (especially by me). Even with the most absurd of prizes the participation was nearly non-existent.
You're right it is supposed to be done when a record is set, but being first on the leaderboard is typically the only reward for setting a record. Chemistry certainly isn't a reward though. The rules indicated from the start that there was a possibility no prizes were given. It's unfortunate that's what happened, but it did.
It is supposed to be all or nothing because I do not want to think about my normal mode items any longer. I don't want to just hand them out in conditions I'm not comfortable with and the conditions I was/am comfortable with were laid out from the start. I do not want to split this stuff between an abundance of people because it becomes less and less useful each time you take items for it and it's supposed to be a "full TA set" and even splitting it among 4 players is tough.
I don't like 2nd, 3rd, or 4th place because those are all still losing places. I added a 2nd place "prize" just so that I could empty my DTs as well.
The value gap is intended.
It is true the rule was there from the beginning and like I said I am really surprised no one else tried.
3. is the biggest point I will concede to, but I think the points I made about it are semi-valid. I chose this duration and prize division for my own reasons even if they dumb to others.
I will only offer those DTs but they are nothing compared to what was up for grabs. Sorry.
Well done on getting into and being the only team to actually submit, and I am sorry that no one else did. At the minimum my team should've put something together.
In regards to everyone else that's just shit posting here, I don't really understand well because most of you did not participate and had no problems with the rule set until after the fact. Y'all should've participated because there are enough triforce members to have put together at least 1 or 2 squads. All the sudden the issue is gone and there'd be a proper winner. I am still shocked that none of you were interested in the prize pool.
Like I said I will not lock the topic and y'all are free to shit in it all you want, and I really won't be replying after this because like Shiida said this is a pretty ample summary of the issues and my thoughts about them.