Fyrewolf5 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Yeah, when I looked at it about v101 prices, it was a bit shocking! 8-12 PDs? Wha...? PDs are so rare that I thought it will be worth 1-2... also God/units = Skyly/Purplenum + VH + Caves + rares on. And guide says... 1 PD each? THIS IS MADNESS!!! (100% reference) I recall buying a few of those (like 2-4) with 1 PD. If God/Units would've such prices I'd be swimming in money! PD's aren't that uncommon of a drop. Once you start to play a lot and kill a lot of monsters, they will drop fairly often. It's possible to find anywhere from 4-12 in a week fairly easily if you play a lot and kill a lot. You can even see 5 drop in a single pts room. The guide really isn't that outdated either. Minor tweaks can happen to it, but if it really needed major changes it would have been updated more promptly. The majority of it is fairly accurate, and it's just a guide and not a rule; things will fluctuate value based on events, rares, etc. but most of it is perfectly fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemek Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 PD's aren't that uncommon of a drop. Once you start to play a lot and kill a lot of monsters, they will drop fairly often. It's possible to find anywhere from 4-12 in a week fairly easily if you play a lot and kill a lot. You can even see 5 drop in a single pts room. The guide really isn't that outdated either. Minor tweaks can happen to it, but if it really needed major changes it would have been updated more promptly. The majority of it is fairly accurate, and it's just a guide and not a rule; things will fluctuate value based on events, rares, etc. but most of it is perfectly fine. Maybe I'm just not lucky... I have 3 PD on stock and traded like 2 in the past. So maybe it is just me. Also when I ask anyone about the drop rate of PDs they say "it's random", now hold on a second, how can be something random have another layer of randomness? It just... doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misombre Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) Maybe I'm just not lucky... I have 3 PD on stock and traded like 2 in the past. So maybe it is just me. Also when I ask anyone about the drop rate of PDs they say "it's random", now hold on a second, how can be something random have another layer of randomness? It just... doesn't make sense. Not that much. Imagine you got 5 % to have a rare, 50 % nothing, 30 % dimates, and 15 % other. Then if the odds fall on 'other', an other random may occur, where you would have 1% to get a photon drop (it is only an example). Otherwise I would say that a random random thing would be something like 1 / (100~1000) by example. So you got a first random (from 100 to 1000) setting the maximum of the second random test. That way, sometime it will be 1/100, others 1/500 or 1/1000 anyway. Hem, that aside, what is the price of an heaven striker coat (the mag cell I think) please ? And it would be good to have the average price of high level disks, photon crystal, and other items who cannot goes in generic category. Thank you all folks =) Edited September 6, 2015 by Misombre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemek Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Not that much. Imagine you got 5 % to have a rare, 50 % nothing, 30 % dimates, and 15 % other. Then if the odds fall on 'other', an other random may occur, where you would have 1% to get a photon drop (it is only an example). Otherwise I would say that a random random thing would be something like 1 / (100~1000) by example. So you got a first random (from 100 to 1000) setting the maximum of the second random test. That way, sometime it will be 1/100, others 1/500 or 1/1000 anyway. Hem, that aside, what is the price of an heaven striker coat (the mag cell I think) please ? And it would be good to have the average price of high level disks, photon crystal, and other items who cannot goes in generic category. Thank you all folks =) I'm aware that it is possible to program more layers of RNG than one. Also Lv 30 disks are 1-3 PD I think, no idea about heaven striker coat tho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misombre Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I have like a hard time to believe that a Megid lvl 30 would only worth 3 pd. My experience on other server shows me that it was way more expensive, though I got no idea how easy it is over there to have lvl 30 disks. If it is not that hard, then I can understand a 3 pd. But you see, to me, 3 pd is for simple techniques, 5 for gi techs, and around 10 for ra techs. But supports, even lvl 30 would only worth 1 pd (I know we can get them pretty much easily, by experience). I even remember seeing disk lv 29 sold to 1 pd for attacks, and 5 pds for megid... Again, I don;t know are the things around, that's why I'm asking *_* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyane Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I'm aware that it is possible to program more layers of RNG than one. Also Lv 30 disks are 1-3 PD I think, no idea about heaven striker coat tho... Lv 30 techs are worth a lot, except s/d/j/z being like 3-5 pd and resta being 1-2 pd. Heaven striker coat depends on the seller, 5 pd should be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knifedera Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 What about the Striker Plus shield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trefleex Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 aint this topic ever ganna get update?+ add new items and value on hit stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misombre Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Well price are always about what people are ready to pay for it, and how many people got it for sell. The fewer the more expansive it will be, I guess everybody already know this kind of thing of course. My point is : this price guide is something like a reasonable price based on drop rate imo. So yeah, it doesn't reflect the actual price nor it will reflect any future prices because everything will move constantly (event/HH/availability) and even the community will change. So what is this price guide purpose supposed to be ? Well, my best guess is that give you a rough idea of the value of each item in respect of each other. I think at a certain point, we should stop asking around about some random price which would never be accurate anyway (like it is even possible anyway). Take this guide lightly, and keep an eye around to see what people expect of their commodity and how much it is available. There is nothing like "trusting the guide" or not, the guide is a tool. Edited November 12, 2015 by Misombre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trefleex Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) Well price are always about what people are ready to pay for it, and how many people got it for sell. The fewer the more expansive it will be, I guess everybody already know this kind of thing of course. My point is : this price guide is something like a reasonable price based on drop rate imo. So yeah, it doesn't reflect the actual price nor it will reflect any future prices because everything will move constantly (event/HH/availability) and even the community will change. So what is this price guide purpose supposed to be ? Well, my best guess is that give you a rough idea of the value of each item in respect of each other. I think at a certain point, we should stop asking around about some random price which would never be accurate anyway (like it is even possible anyway). Take this guide lightly, and keep an eye around to see what people expect of their commodity and how much it is available. There is nothing like "trusting the guide" or not, the guide is a tool. Yep respect others prices (NOT) thats why u start trolling my topic when i tried sell my c/battle But np i had some pms who actualy respected prices and willing too payed if they had it Edited November 13, 2015 by Trefleex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayo Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Could special items like mag cells and syncesta be added to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyrewolf5 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Yep respect others prices (NOT) thats why u start trolling my topic when i tried sell my c/battle But np i had some pms who actualy respected prices and willing too payed if they had it Why are you here trying to cause drama in another thread entirely? It has nothing to do with "respecting" other's prices, they said "give you a rough idea of the value of each item in respect of each other", which is what your trade was not doing by asking for 4-5 times the value of the items in respect to each other (even your own misinformed opinion of charging 2 times the value is pretty questionable). If you actually "respected" other's prices, then you wouldn't be actively trying to rip people off when you know what others would be selling the same item for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyane Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Let's stop please Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misombre Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Just wanna say that I am sorry that you felt offended, Trefleex. Nobody tried to "troll" you, my offer was maybe not as much as you were looking for, but I was not gonna give you false hope either (I know my limit when it's about hunting), it was only an offer... I may have been sarcastic in my offtopic, because well it's in my nature I guess to point out unrealistic things, but I never intend to make you feel bad. You're in own right to ask for any price, but don't be surprise that people ask you for a little less =/ Just say "no am not interested' and that's it, end of the story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saber +7 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Tbh all the hyped up prices for luck mats are to much 1 pd per a luck mat is a good price and he wasn't asking for to much he was just asking for a lot of an item with low availability, but if you paid a few people for 30 luck mats at 1:1 I think you'd find yourself at 250 luck materials rather quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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