Armando Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I unlocked the topic. Not for drama but to show the extent of the issue. [04-06-2014, 08:11] 42098133 (pan) Found 01022700,00000200,08000000 [04-06-2014, 08:33] 42103310 (LionHeart) Found 01022700,00000600,06000000 [04-06-2014, 08:47] 42113442 (under9000) Found 01022700,00002E00,18000000 [04-06-2014, 08:53] 42103310 (LionHeart) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 08:53] 42113442 (under9000) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 09:47] 42097431 (Kira v11) Found 01022700,00000E00,0C000000 [04-06-2014, 09:58] 42103310 (LionHeart) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:12] 42009203 (FaTbOy) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:17] 42095825 (Dark Curs) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:29] 42102085 (-Saith ) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:31] 42112252 (Armando ) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:39] 42097431 (Kira v11) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:41] 42009203 (FaTbOy) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:43] 42113922 (HYK4R0) Found 01022700,00004900,17000000 [04-06-2014, 10:45] 42112527 (BigBoss) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:51] 42095825 (Dark Curs) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:52] 42113402 (Armando ) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:52] 42110221 (Cervantes) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:53] 42095825 (Dark Curs) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:54] 42110045 (MASSRICO ) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:57] 42009203 (FaTbOy) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:58] 42092609 (Kata) Found 01022700,00000C00,05000000 [04-06-2014, 10:59] 42110045 (MASSRICO ) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:02] 42113922 (HYK4R0) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:02] 42113922 (HYK4R0) Found 01022700,00003800,0A000000 [04-06-2014, 11:05] 42113442 (under9000) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:06] 42097431 (Kira v11) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:09] 42112527 (BigBoss) Found 01022700,00002B00,0E000000 [04-06-2014, 11:11] 42092609 (Kata) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:12] 42114057 (Baja.) Found 01022700,00000700,14000000 [04-06-2014, 11:13] 42014036 (Max.) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:15] 42011296 (dooby) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:20] 42009203 (FaTbOy) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:21] 42112252 (Armando ) Found 01022700,00001B00,19000000 [04-06-2014, 11:22] 42009203 (FaTbOy) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:23] 42091137 (Makina) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:28] 42112252 (Armando ) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:28] 42110045 (MASSRICO ) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:29] 42102085 (-Saith ) Found 01022700,00000600,0D000000 [04-06-2014, 11:30] 42110045 (MASSRICO ) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:31] 42112252 (Armando ) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:31] 42102383 (Maya) Found 01022700,00005200,15000000 43 red rings found that i could ascertain from the logs. I'll do a deal with you, if all 43 are returned or are found then the rate can go back to normal nice werk lee now ill have ot hunt down everbyody i gave it to lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 on average looking at the logs, a red ring drops about once every 24ish hours. The other solution to balance it out would be to shut off the red ring drop for a month or so. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolective Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Wouldn't that already compensate for the fact that it was unable to be hunted for the entire duration of the anniversary event and christmas? I'm not saying that it's not a great idea, just thinking about it. Thanks for the heads up Lee. c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajex Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Falz anti-dark ring for one month then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolective Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yes, that would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soly Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Falz anti-dark ring for one month then. That could work xDD ... (i want one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajex Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Lee has done it... Definitive proof that armando is full of crap. yeah out of the 7 rrs i got all were min so i doubt anybody got a high stat i actualy only did it for 30 minutes broski I unlocked the topic. Not for drama but to show the extent of the issue. [04-06-2014, 10:31] 42112252 (Armando ) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 10:52] 42113402 (Armando ) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:21] 42112252 (Armando ) Found 01022700,00001B00,19000000 [04-06-2014, 11:28] 42112252 (Armando ) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 [04-06-2014, 11:31] 42112252 (Armando ) Found 01022700,00000000,00000000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armando Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) well u still said hours when that is only like 1 hour and 1 minute good sir Edited April 8, 2014 by Armando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larva Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) All the red ring drops during that time were logged. My opinion is taking back each one that was found during that tine does less damage than raising the rate for an extended period of time does. Not that it is ideal, but it isn't as bad as it currently is. Thats what i was suggesting, but seams that some users dont agree to this. I go with Choko... that was a mistake and ppl abused from it... is like the other issue with crack mode... ppl abusing of a mistake i disagree with this because most of the ones i found were given out to people who needed them lol The people who need them can farm for one easily if keep the normal rate. and you can still help them to hunt one. I disagree with taking them back. I understand that mistakes are made but raising the drop rates because of that which has nothing to do with the players is not right. Players didn't make the mistake. How can that be called abuse? No one was cheating or anything. Ok, so you disagree and ur happy with our mistake, then take our fixes as it is. We cant please everyone, and if we made a mistake and you liked the mistake , then take the fix. Oh look one of the best items in game is dropping like candy! totally not suspicious, let's grab all of them! LOLOLOLOL I think the 1/300 rate is bullshit ! After just having my I.D changed to whithill feels like a kick in the teeth ! Mistakes happen and its out of order we all get punished for it , 20-30 rings got found hardly a dent in the server is it ? Why don't we just leave it as is and get on with it eh ? I wont be a happy chappy if the new rate gets finalized On reading this I understand the 1/300 now. Think about how many people want a RR? A lot. How many people currently donate for RR? Probably none. How many people donated for PGF before it was removed? A lot. Nearly everybody wants RR, just like nearly everybody wants PGF, so they will donate like crazy for them like PGF. It's all about the $$, got to have something to replace those $65 donations. Lets put this clear. No donation will be accept for a RR or a PGF. -------------------- now my input. the mistake was done period with that. moving on. we have to do something about it. just like when a user gets buged you guys run to the forum to as for help rollback or recreate item. When is clearly stipulate in the registration agreement, that we are not responsible for bugs, and that we are not obligated to help. since the server is offered AS IS. And we still help because is part of happiness of the user and the server.. Now in this situation we have to don something about it, so we have two options here. A- We raise the drop for a sometime. B- We remove the RR that where find in that drop. there's no C where we just sit and do nothing! . Like i mentioned above to Armando. he said he give away the ones he found to help users who need them. Well with the regular drop Armando can still help this users to hunt the RR that this guys needs. Or maybe the user really ain't need so bad this RR to do a hunt for it. Free stuff are always welcome, easy stuff too. But if you really want something you normally go and hunt for it. If someone gets to you and tell you "hey i have a spare RR you want it? it's free". What this person will say? "Oh a free RR, oh not thanks i don't want it"... YEAH RIGHT. Different story would be to get your ass kick for one. so yeah guys. either A or B. btw Lee thanks searching in the logs. big hug man. Edited April 8, 2014 by Larva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armando Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) how about D replace it with anti dark ring ;D? for a month Edited April 8, 2014 by Armando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyane Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Giving them back and leave the drop as it was originally seems great for those that were planning on hunting it. I can see that peoples are interested in anti dark ring since it's something they wouldn't be able to get normally. (But sounds like a trap :3 ) It's up to you Larva, you're the leader and we have to respect your decisions. I would like to thank Lee too since he had the work to search for logs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy88 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Damn. I found the first 1?....ehhhh wtf. sorry peeps and GMs, I mean that. I gave mine away this morning because I did not want it and didn't feel right. I will get the user I gave it to and try to get it back...like many have said the new rate isn't fair to others who missed out. It sucks. But what can you do? I will keep checking this for updates. I will give it back or sell it to bank, its an item. In a video game. I am not too worried about it. I can say that because I had another 1 before I found that 1. Its up to the GMs. Not everyone will be satisfied. The whole server should not be punished though. That doesn't make sense. But like kajex said there isn't an option C. jonesy/pan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larva Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) ok this is the final deal. 1.- All 43 RR must be return, not sell, not drop. RETURNED to a GM. 2.- When number 1 is accomplish we will put the normal rate back. Again if number 1 is accomplish we will put in permanent drop the Anti-Dark Ring. we will be updating this list with the number of RR that we have acquire from the 43 RR. as i said. Members MUST return the RR's to the GM's. Edited April 8, 2014 by Larva 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajex Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Almost all the red rings were returned. Those who did not comply with larva's request had their red rings remotely deleted. All 42 have now been accounted for and the drop rate can return to normal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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