500john Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Hello. Well many of ppl here say 'im hunting pgf and its mine if it drops'. ok. BUT they create the OPEN and FREE TO JOIN room called for example RT. They say about reports, bans. But what for? Ban for game mechanics? There is not "give a creator of room" mode. Its give a finder mode. We do the same moves during the game: kill and hunt. BUT pgf for him? Why don't play solo then or with your team only? Or just name it like PGFFORME. And i saw so many times when they say near the OLGA these words. IS IT OK? Can GM's answered this quastion please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saber +7 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 It's against the rules to steal drops, think if you were hunting but didn't wanna go by yourself even if you were strong enough so you let people tag along for exp and chatting but then you ask them not to take the item you're looking for and they agree and then take the item anyway you'd be mad... Especially when you aren't strong enough to do the mission alone it is rude to ask for drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufu Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 colorado i believe john answered your way of thinking with name the game like pgfforme or 'name'rt or 'pgf'name' for example bufu rt or pgf bufu so what u just said doesnt apply to what john is asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500john Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) But most of times they create public room cuz they CAN NOT do this solo. Or can, but so long and they think ' yea ill create and tell them pgf for me'. I do not think its normal. Espacialy when someone says and threatens about bans. Edited January 2, 2016 by 500john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virec Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Well as I stated in game if the hunt is announced and has been acknowledged via public room or private room and you decide to take the so called "HUNT" item then that is considered Item stealing and you can be prosecuted in compliance with Ultima Server rules and regulations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midori Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Regardless of player strength, if players agree to let a specific person get an item, they need to stick to the agreement. It shouldn't even matter if there is a rule about it or not. If you are a decent person, you would be honest and responsible. The kind of player who would agree to let someone get an item, and then proceed to take the item anyway, shouldn't be playing on Ultima in the first place. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500john Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 Agreed. But then the creator should say from the start. Or name the room like that. Not near by Olga or after 30 mins playing together. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufu Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 what if the person didnt even ask for pgf in the first place and what if he announce the hunted item being his at the boss wouldnt it mean people played for nothing? for example john said he saw many say pgf is theirs to take near the boss which mean no one had the capacity to agree in the first place except for the maker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 1 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) I understand what you're saying John . Open games where drops are called are quite boring imo. Whenever I make a game people ask me "are you hunting something I'll say "Na , go nuts" i feel like it's the sporty thing to do. I understand what you're saying is people should call the drops at the start, so that people don't waste their time hunting an item for someone else . Nothing you can really do about it unfortunately :/ Edited January 2, 2016 by Stark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virec Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) Well I called at the beginning of the room and have logs to prove it so my question is why are you debating something that has been implemented as policy?? The user did not post the beginning of the log as I have. Reference the log below for details: 01:24:22 Enter ABED-RT 01:25:39 42148474 X pipe up 01:26:45 42146271 Alexis gonna test out the new alexis 01:26:56 42148474 X cool 01:27:06 42146271 Alexis but yeah, after today, im resting 01:28:07 42148474 X ooo 01:28:10 42146271 Alexis ? 01:28:12 42148474 X 2 x pds from boxes 01:28:15 42146271 Alexis wtf 01:28:26 42148474 X thats never happened to me lol 01:33:05 42160236 Ni pa reds ok? 01:33:11 42146271 Alexis hold on 01:33:14 42148474 X yes 01:33:32 42146271 Alexis hehe 01:37:46 42148474 X red pipe is good 01:39:02 42146271 Alexis lol 01:39:06 42148474 X haha 01:39:06 42115590 Arbiter pipe? 01:39:14 42148474 X I just said red pipe is good 01:39:16 42148474 X wow 01:39:20 42115590 Arbiter lol 01:46:07 42146271 Alexis haha 01:46:44 42148474 X arbiter is afk 01:46:48 42148474 X Im hunting PGF all other drops are free game 01:46:50 42115590 Arbiter im hre 01:46:51 42115590 Arbiter here 01:46:53 42146271 Alexis hes having a bite 01:46:54 42148474 X where are u 01:47:20 42115590 Arbiter just enetered lower levels 01:47:26 42146271 Alexis D: 01:48:13 42148474 X 100 01:48:16 42160236 Ni pa 70 01:48:17 42146271 Alexis 48 01:51:01 42115590 Arbiter ni pa what rifle are you using 01:51:07 42160236 Ni pa laser 01:51:21 42115590 Arbiter hell 01:51:23 42115590 Arbiter ? 01:51:24 42160236 Ni pa y 01:51:38 42115590 Arbiter 1shot kills lol 01:55:30 42148474 X opps 01:55:34 42146271 Alexis coffee break 01:57:13 42146271 Alexis ah my eyes 01:57:16 42160236 Ni pa lol 01:57:28 42160236 Ni pa ylw 01:57:30 42160236 Ni pa use it 01:59:17 42148474 X btw im hunting PGF all other drops free game 01:59:49 42148474 X if you ninja the item I will remote and have a GM retrieve ok? 02:00:02 42160236 Ni pa then i got ban? 02:00:07 42148474 X yes 02:00:10 42160236 Ni pa for? 02:00:19 42148474 X for disrespecting the hunt 02:00:35 42160236 Ni pa its gameplay mechanic 02:00:41 42160236 Ni pa give a finder 02:01:02 42148474 X test it out and watch what happens 02:01:03 42160236 Ni pa report gm about gameplay 02:01:15 42148474 X its not game play it the server rules 02:01:37 42160236 Ni pa why dont u play solo then? like the others? 02:01:47 42148474 X I have 02:01:56 42160236 Ni pa well its free to join room 02:01:57 42148474 X I just choose to play with a team 02:02:04 42115590 Arbiter exactly its free 02:02:10 42160236 Ni pa nah playin with team means with pass 02:02:18 42148474 X test it out if it drops and you take I guarantee I will get i back 02:02:30 42160236 Ni pa yea sure ill talk anbout it on forum 02:02:50 42160236 Ni pa it means we help u to hunt for free yes? 02:03:02 42148474 X no it was ur choice to join 02:03:04 42115590 Arbiter hope he doesnt drop it then 02:03:04 42148474 X now mine 02:03:10 42160236 Ni pa im not in ur tema 02:03:17 42148474 X ur missing the point 02:03:25 42160236 Ni pa nah its u miss it 02:03:40 42148474 X hey this conversation is over you can respect the hunt or leave 02:03:49 42160236 Ni pa i will leave 02:03:50 42148474 X its ur choice 02:04:01 42115590 Arbiter lets leave 02:04:05 42148474 X please do 02:04:11 42160236 Ni pa its free to join 02:04:15 42160236 Ni pa then free to take 02:04:19 42160236 Ni pa catch if u can 02:04:21 42160236 Ni pa kno it? 02:04:22 42148474 X its not when the hunt is announced 02:04:27 42160236 Ni pa ah yes sure 02:04:28 42115590 Arbiter lmao 02:04:35 42160236 Ni pa im huntin too 02:04:37 42148474 X ask anyone on the forums 02:04:39 42160236 Ni pa ok announec 02:04:42 42148474 X but this is my room 02:04:45 42148474 X not urs 02:04:45 42115590 Arbiter we all are 02:04:53 42160236 Ni pa then create with pass next time ok?. 02:04:58 42148474 X nope 02:05:01 42160236 Ni pa lol 02:05:03 42148474 X I am free to host public 02:05:11 42160236 Ni pa and we are who hunt for y 02:05:12 42148474 X server rules 02:05:17 42160236 Ni pa its not 02:05:23 42148474 X ur not hunting for me 02:05:27 42148474 X ur tagging along for exp 02:05:30 42160236 Ni pa dude i will talk about it 02:05:33 42160236 Ni pa on forum 02:05:34 42160236 Ni pa be sure 02:05:38 42148474 X please do look at other topics 02:05:38 42160236 Ni pa ok? 02:05:45 42148474 X I can get u examples 02:06:19 42160236 Ni pa u want us to help 02:06:22 42160236 Ni pa but all help for u 02:06:25 42160236 Ni pa its fine 02:06:29 42160236 Ni pa its an great idea 02:06:34 42160236 Ni pa font u hink so 02:06:48 42148474 X well you dont understand this is a private server with rules 02:06:55 42148474 X and if you dont follow you can be banned 02:07:05 42148474 X and trust me if it drops I will get it back if u take 02:07:18 42160236 Ni pa dude its useless to talk with ya 02:08:14 42160236 Ni pa dude u dont understand the game machanics 02:08:17 42160236 Ni pa its not my probs 02:08:18 42160236 Ni pa good luck 02:08:21 42160236 Ni pa ill talk about it 02:08:23 42160236 Ni pa on forum 02:08:24 42160236 Ni pa be dur 02:08:25 42148474 X this game isnt hosted by sega anymore 02:08:26 42160236 Ni pa sure 02:08:30 42148474 X go head 02:08:34 42160236 Ni pa yea yea 02:08:35 42148474 X this is hosted by Ultima 02:08:41 42160236 Ni pa good luck 02:08:45 42148474 X yeap ty 02:08:56 42148474 X I dont mean to be a dick 02:08:59 42148474 X but rules are rules 02:09:02 42148474 X for a reason I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED BOTH ENTRIES FROM WHERE I ADVISED THAT I WAS HUNTING PGF. I ALWAYS ANNOUNCE TWO TIMES THROUGH OUT MY HUNT GAMES JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR. ASKI ANYONE WHO KNOWS ME. I ALWAYS RUN MY PUBLIC HUNTS LIKE THIS. IF YOU REFERENCE THE TIMES FROM BOTH ANNOUNCEMENTS THE FIRST WAS APPROXIMATELY 30 MINUTES BEFORE THE BOSS AND THE SECOND WAS 15 MNUTES PRIOR TO BOSS AS A REMINDER. THIS IS MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME FOR THE USER TO LEAVE IF THEY DISAGREE WITH THIS. Edited January 2, 2016 by Virec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500john Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) Well I called at the beginning of the room and have logs to prove it so my question is why are you debating something that has been implemented as policy?? Did i say anything to you? I asked gms cleared the situation. Not you. And yes. I have logs as well: 11:32:35 Enter 01:Ultima:01-01 11:33:10 Enter 01:Ultima:01-07 11:33:35 Enter ABED-RT 11:34:02 42160236 Ni pa reds ok? 11:34:07 42146271 Alexis hold on 11:34:10 42148474 X yes 11:34:29 42146271 Alexis hehe 11:38:43 42148474 X red pipe is good 11:39:59 42146271 Alexis lol 11:40:03 42148474 X haha 11:40:03 42115590 Arbiter pipe? 11:40:11 42148474 X I just said red pipe is good 11:40:13 42148474 X wow 11:40:17 42115590 Arbiter lol 11:47:04 42146271 Alexis haha 11:47:41 42148474 X arbiter is afk 11:47:47 42115590 Arbiter im hre 11:47:48 42115590 Arbiter here 11:47:50 42146271 Alexis hes having a bite 11:47:51 42148474 X where are u 11:48:17 42115590 Arbiter just enetered lower levels 11:48:23 42146271 Alexis D: 11:49:10 42148474 X 100 11:49:13 42160236 Ni pa 70 11:49:14 42146271 Alexis 48 11:51:57 42115590 Arbiter ni pa what rifle are you using 11:52:03 42160236 Ni pa laser 11:52:18 42115590 Arbiter hell 11:52:20 42115590 Arbiter ? 11:52:20 42160236 Ni pa y 11:52:35 42115590 Arbiter 1shot kills lol 11:56:27 42148474 X opps 11:56:31 42146271 Alexis coffee break 11:58:09 42146271 Alexis ah my eyes 11:58:13 42160236 Ni pa lol 11:58:25 42160236 Ni pa ylw 11:58:27 42160236 Ni pa use it 12:00:14 42148474 X btw im hunting PGF all other drops free game It was near by Olga's pipe wasn't it? Edited January 2, 2016 by 500john 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchibbs Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 tbh I think this is just a flame thread but with a few quick questions at the start of the game, this problem can be solved, if the person calls the drop you can leave or help them hunt it. I have been in your seat before so I can see how it would be frustrating. This is also why I love soloing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufu Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 i shall ask my question too have u read what john said? or is it just u thinking about other things if u called beforehand what john said doesnt apply to u but right now were talking about the people who dont call or call at the boss after making everyone work for 'them'. and when i say beforehand i mean right when people enter the game or in the beginning like u stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufu Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 and see what john just did? a 30min conversation where the X person calls pgf for himself at the end. this is what the post was made for not for people like u virec. if u called before hand then good for u. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virec Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 your thread was in vein because rules is rules if you dont like the rules dont play here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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