polyrsv Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) I have two different PSO machines... The first is a Macbook running bootcamp, the second is a dell latitude e6400. both using xp sp3. The problem is that my macbook runs pso much better than the dell, even though the specs say otherwise. Perhaps someone has some information that can help me use my dell, instead, as it should run pso better.Both cpus are running DirectX 9.0c, with latest drivers, and i've tested all forms of fog/resolution,frameskipping... with the mac outperforming the dell every time.Macbook = Intel GMA 950 945GM Dell = Intel GMA 4500 Mobile HD CanYouRunIt tests: mac- http://postimg.org/image/z509h8zx9/ dell- http://postimg.org/image/cjip54913/ My main pso machine is a macbook 1,1 (2006) with the following specs: ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 1/8/2015, 08:29:18 Machine name: VOYAGER Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_qfe.090206-1316) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Apple Computer, Inc. System Model: MacBook1,1 BIOS: Default System BIOS Processor: Genuine Intel® CPU T2500 @ 2.00GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 2016MB RAM Page File: 842MB used, 3067MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode ------------ DxDiag Notes ------------ DirectX Files Tab: No problems found. Display Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 1: No problems found. Music Tab: No problems found. Input Tab: No problems found. Network Tab: No problems found. -------------------- DirectX Debug Levels -------------------- Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a) DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail) DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a) DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a) DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail) DirectSound: 0/5 (retail) DirectShow: 0/6 (retail) --------------- Display Devices --------------- Card name: Mobile Intel® 945 Express Chipset Family Manufacturer: Intel Corporation Chip type: Intel® GMA 950 DAC type: Internal Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&D08086&REV_03 Display Memory: 128.0 MB Current Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200 Driver Name: igxprd32.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.4833 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 7/22/2009 10:12:50, 57344 bytes WHQL Logo'd: Yes WHQL Date Stamp: n/a VDD: n/a Mini VDD: igxpmp32.sys Mini VDD Date: 7/22/2009 10:12:50, 5761760 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B78E66-A52A2C2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x8086 Device ID: 0x27A2 SubSys ID: 0x72708086 Revision ID: 0x0003 Revision ID: 0x0003 Video Accel: Deinterlace Caps: n/a Registry: OK DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Not Available DDraw Test Result: Not run D3D7 Test Result: Not run D3D8 Test Result: Not run D3D9 Test Result: Not run My dell is as follows: ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 1/9/2015, 01:31:26 Machine name: VOYAGER Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_qfe.090206-1316) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System Model: Latitude E6400 BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A34 Processor: Intel® Core2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 2000MB RAM Page File: 808MB used, 3079MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode ------------ DxDiag Notes ------------ DirectX Files Tab: No problems found. Display Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 2: No problems found. Music Tab: No problems found. Input Tab: No problems found. Network Tab: No problems found. -------------------- DirectX Debug Levels -------------------- Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a) DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail) DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a) DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a) DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail) DirectSound: 0/5 (retail) DirectShow: 0/6 (retail) --------------- Display Devices --------------- Card name: Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family Manufacturer: Intel Corporation Chip type: Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family DAC type: Internal Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&02331028&REV_07 Display Memory: 1024.0 MB Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200 Driver Name: igxprd32.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.5420 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 8/29/2012 02:34:34, 58368 bytes WHQL Logo'd: Yes WHQL Date Stamp: n/a VDD: n/a Mini VDD: igxpmp32.sys Mini VDD Date: 8/29/2012 02:34:34, 2019200 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B78E662A6C2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x8086 Device ID: 0x2A42 SubSys ID: 0x02331028 Revision ID: 0x0007 Revision ID: 0x0007 Video Accel: Deinterlace Caps: n/a Registry: OK DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Not Available DDraw Test Result: Not run D3D7 Test Result: Not run D3D8 Test Result: Not run D3D9 Test Result: Not run Please let me know if you've any information as to how I may get pso running smoothly on my dell, or if i should add more information to the post. I appreciate your time! Edited January 8, 2015 by polyrsv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigunman Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Not that I'm a fan of any Apple product, but honestly, I think I hate Dells worse. Most I've come in contact with have been utter pieces of crap in the long run, with nothing positive to say of Dell's service... Honestly, the Intel intergrated display chipsets are not known for their graphics prowess, period. I'd take intergrated AMD or NVidia anyday over anything Intel... Your case is very perplexing indeed, after reading all the computer specs. I'd start by trying to update the drivers of the Dell for the graphics and work your way out from there. I'd wager at this point, the Mac's Intel graphics is probably the newer of the two, thus the performance disparity... However, don't quote me on that as I haven't researched the two chipsets properly yet at this point. After that, try running some benchmarks perhaps on both machines to hopefully isolate some anomaly that is causing the disparity among your laptops' performance. Edited January 8, 2015 by Trigunman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyrewolf5 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Actually pso doesn't really use your gpu for anything, that shouldn't reall be an issue, it's all cpu based. Anyways what kind of performance problems are you getting exactly? is it just slowdown everywhere? in specific areas? crashes? You could also try forcing the game to run on a single core instead of on two. Your pc seems like it should be able to handle it, but in a worst case scenario there is also the iboughtmypcfromwalmart patch here: http://pso.univers-ps.com/bb/skin/listeSkinUS.php5?cat=30 . Other people can probably help you troubleshoot more than I can. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polyrsv Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Not that I'm a fan of any Apple product, but honestly, I think I hate Dells worse. Most I've come in contact with have been utter pieces of crap in the long run, with nothing positive to say of Dell's service... I'm using these laptops because my toshiba failed, and I can't justify buying another computer until these two fail, as well. The macbook just won't quit(but isn't a best gaming cpu), and the dell is a work cpu that i'd like to use for pso. Ironically, Alienware came out of dell, lols. Honestly, the Intel intergrated display chipsets are not known for their graphics prowess, period. I'd take intergrated AMD or NVidia anyday over anything Intel... I realized that, recently. However, this dell can run CS:Source @ 30 fps in spraying-fest, so i assume it should be able to handle PSO. According to canyourunit.com, the dell > macbook in every way. Your case is very perplexing indeed, after reading all the computer specs. I'd start by trying to update the drivers of the Dell for the graphics and work your way out from there. I'd wager at this point, the Mac's Intel graphics is probably the newer of the two, thus the performance disparity... However, don't quote me on that as I haven't researched the two chipsets properly yet at this point.I've been using the dell support drivers section to try to update everything recommended, but I get these weird errors: -(When I run the system analysis from the website, using dell system detect,) it says it requires .net framework 3.5 or greater, yet I have 4.0. -(when I try to install all the updates, manually), it says i need to go to the control panel and manually install it or something.... i just don't get it. when comparing the two chipsets... the dell should be 5x better. After that, try running some benchmarks perhaps on both machines to hopefully isolate some anomaly that is causing the disparity among your laptops' performance. Could you recommend some benchmarks I could use? I only have been using http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri . Thank You for your response and time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polyrsv Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Actually pso doesn't really use your gpu for anything, that shouldn't reall be an issue, it's all cpu based. Anyways what kind of performance problems are you getting exactly? is it just slowdown everywhere? in specific areas? crashes? You could also try forcing the game to run on a single core instead of on two. Your pc seems like it should be able to handle it, but in a worst case scenario there is also the iboughtmypcfromwalmart patch here: http://pso.univers-ps.com/bb/skin/listeSkinUS.php5?cat=30 . Other people can probably help you troubleshoot more than I can. I wasn't aware the gpu was unused during pso... which leaves me even more confused as to why the dell runs it so slowly. My performance issues: -lobby gets extremely laggy when there are three or four additional people in the same one. I can use an alternative, and the lag goes away, but the lobby isn't really where i care about framerate drop. -most of the worlds run well, but when i get to bosses, it is lag-city. dragon, i can get by w/o noticeable lag... same with volt opt... Falz and del rol, though, in addition to all ep 2 bosses, get extremely laggy. probably 10-20 fps, and to me, becomes unplayable. - even if i cast barta, anywhere, the framerate drops. I am using level 30 barta, though... ** Lag takes place using all resolutions, fog settings, frameskipping, etc... I have tried every combination. I will try the patch you linked, immediately. Thank you very much for taking the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polyrsv Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 I just tested PSO with the 'walmart' patch, and had great results!I tested TTF, RT, and PoD. Completely playable everywhere, with only a few moments of laggy framerate- which is nothing compared to what it was before. I think I created the most lag by spamming techs, but now I can do so worry-free. I will continue testing the dell to see how much quality i can get, while maintaining the 50+fps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyrewolf5 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 yeah, that patch is pretty much a shotgun treatment, takes out like every single effect that could cause anything. There's probably some lesser fix that would work for you as well, but it's good to know that patch will also do the trick for you if you can't find anything else that will. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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