aaronporter23 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 What section id is the best for: HUmar RAmar FOmar thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynetic Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 HUmar -- Yellowboze/Redria RAmar -- Skyly/Redria FOmar -- Purplenum If you're planning on making all three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronporter23 Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) HUmar -- Yellowboze/Redria RAmar -- Skyly/Redria FOmar -- Purplenum If you're planning on making all three. Thanks for your input Edited January 8, 2011 by aaronporter23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Wouldn't Skyly do well on a Hunter as well? I'm not asking specifically HUmar, just in general since it's the J-Sword, Lame D'Argent, and a few other melee weapons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyD Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Its all about the player really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronporter23 Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) well for my hunter I would like to get rare melee weapons so whatever id helps with that would be good and thanks for the inputs so far Edited January 9, 2011 by aaronporter23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyD Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Skily, Oran (Both with lame/excal drop| Sky with SJS and Oran with Synesta) but here are plenty others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynetic Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I've always believed that Skyly is much better on a Ranger than a Hunter. The reason being is that the items it can get easily are much better hunted with a RA than a HU. Think of doing PW4. On a RA, you can use Demon's Mechgun, Frozen Shooter and a powerful ranged weapon to finish the job off. (or a technique if you wish) On a HUmar, you'd need to spam Rabarta, try to Demon's with a Raygun or Fanatic (zzz), and then finish the enemy off with a little more firepower. It's the same deal in E4. RAs have better crowd control than HUs and don't have to be upclose and personal. Doing MA4C for your Lame/Excalibur (which is more a RA/FO weapon, I might add, but can have good uses on a HU), don't you think you'd be able to do it better with a RA? You rafoie the rappies (power maser on cast) and then snipe the enemies. When fighting lizards, use a Daylight Scar or something with confusing them for the time being. (DLS isn't really a hard hunt here.) Skyly is obviously the best E2 ID, as it gets SJS, HP and MKB at decent rates. And guess what class is best for E2? Right, rangers. For a HU, I'd give them a strong E1 ID. Yellowboze is good for Shooter, Kasami (somewhat), Bringer's Arm, Parts of Baranz, Spread Needle, while having some perks in E4 (Heaven Striker and Cannon Rouge, being the main ones). Redria is also similar. FO is always better with Purplenum. It is the best ID in the game, in my opinion, as it houses ALOT of good drops, and it has alot of goodies in E4, in which FOs excel the most. (Daylight Scar, Centurion/Ability, BOVN, Swordsman Lore (TWO Enemies), Heaven Striker, Slicer of Fanatic, Heavenly/Arms, Photon Crystals, might be more I've missed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Thanks Zyn, just wanted your reasoning behind that. I like skyly cuz of it's color XD but I just want my J Sword and then I'll be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonsl4y Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 i got a humar on skyly for j-sword and excal, but when i saw the drop rates for a j-sword i just donated and got 1 lol XD i heard its like 7 thousand and sumthin to 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynetic Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 SJS is 1/12,604 (approximately) after DAR (the drop charts of Ultima will read 1/7,xxx, but this is before DAR) Before somebody asks, DAR is Drop Anything Rate. This means the chance an enemy will drop anything. For example, a Melqueek would have around 20~25% of dropping an item, with a boss having 100% DAR. The thing is, rare drop rates are calculated inside this DAR, which means you need to roll a successful DAR and then your rare drop, which significantly increases the overall drop rate of an item. That means your 1/64 Fanatic or your 1/317 Limiter really has a much higher drop rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewight Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 SJS is 1/12,604 (approximately) after DAR (the drop charts of Ultima will read 1/7,xxx, but this is before DAR) Before somebody asks, DAR is Drop Anything Rate. This means the chance an enemy will drop anything. For example, a Melqueek would have around 20~25% of dropping an item, with a boss having 100% DAR. The thing is, rare drop rates are calculated inside this DAR, which means you need to roll a successful DAR and then your rare drop, which significantly increases the overall drop rate of an item. That means your 1/64 Fanatic or your 1/317 Limiter really has a much higher drop rate. I thought that most charts included the DAR as part of their calculations? (Might be different if somebody changed it. I believe ultima items drop more often due to some change Larva made, either to the DAR or to the chances of the item itself. I can't pull up a post at the moment to show it, but I'm fairly certain I've seen a statement saying that rare items drop more frequently here). Also, another thing I'd like to say about yellowboze (that I unfortunately have no chart for at the moment either, I can't remember where I saw it), is that Yellowboze has potential to find weapons with higher Hit % than the other section IDs. This rarely kicks in, as finding anything with more than 50 hit is rare enough, and RL gets you 50 hit weapons fairly easily, but certain non-rare weapons can have skyrocketing values if they're found with enough hit. Of course, I can't trust a chart I can no longer find to tell me this, but it's enough to make me use yellowboze as one of my main IDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynetic Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I thought that most charts included the DAR as part of their calculations? (Might be different if somebody changed it. I believe ultima items drop more often due to some change Larva made, either to the DAR or to the chances of the item itself. I can't pull up a post at the moment to show it, but I'm fairly certain I've seen a statement saying that rare items drop more frequently here). The charts for SEGA's servers do, but the charts for the different private servers do not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 wow, so does that mean SJS is really around 70k? OH MY GOD! I COULD SPEND A LIFETIME HUNTING IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Wow, talk about depressing... Kairi now I'm panicked XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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