Kaurama Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 50% hit or more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBogdanovic94 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Hi there I’m not sure if you are aware but the Hell special on a regular Arms is reduced, meaning that it’ll almost never hit the target. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaurama Posted July 1, 2023 Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 lol thats dumb. why would they do that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBogdanovic94 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 53 minutes ago, Kaurama said: lol thats dumb. why would they do that..... Yeah lol, basically any non rare weapon (saber-gladius, shot-arms, rifle-laser etc) that hit multiple targets or hits multiple times per combo (shot, dagger, sword etc) that has specific specials such as Demon's, Hell, Arrest etc get a "reduce" which basically cuts the chance of those specials working by a certain multiple. A great example would be Vulcans. It targets 1 monster, but since it hits multiple times, if you had a Vulcan with let's say Demon's the chance of the Demon's special activating is reduced by I think 2/3 (do not remember the exact reduction). That's why Yasminkov 9000M with Demon's is great because it is unreduced, meaning each bullet has the regular chance of Demon's working. Specials like Charge, Spirit or Berserk work as regular, so usually for the non rare weapons those specials are preferred. In conclusion, Hell on a non rare Arms, even with 80 hit would be basically useless. That's why most funded rangers use M-Type Shot with Hell or Demon's because it is unreduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaurama Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 ah I have a m type shot just no dts to add hit or special yet. Thank you this thread can be closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ink Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) Swords (reduced by 1/2) Sword Gigush Breaker Claymore Calibur Last Survivor Daggers (reduced by 1/2) Dagger Knife Blade Edge Ripper Blade Dance Bloody Art Zero Divide Partisans (reduced by 1/2) Partisan Halbert Glaive Berdys Gungnir Gae Bolg Asteron Belt Slicers (reduced by 2/3) Slicer Spinner Cutter Sawcer Diska Slicer of Assassin Diska of Liberator Mechguns (reduced by 2/3) Mechgun Assault Repeater Gatling Vulcan H&S25 Justice L&K14 Combat Shots (reduced by 2/3) Shot Spread Cannon Launcher Arms Crush Bullet Meteor Smash Final Impact Edited July 2, 2023 by ink 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theancientsam Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 the wep you want is called hell type/sh shot. they are usually like 70 dts for a 80 hit one? i think? 10 more dt for adding hell hell type sh/ shot is not reduced but if you want something good and cheap for ranger just go for hell laser 50 hit. you can farm this yourself in restless lion if you want 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBogdanovic94 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 11 hours ago, theancientsam said: the wep you want is called hell type/sh shot. they are usually like 70 dts for a 80 hit one? i think? 10 more dt for adding hell hell type sh/ shot is not reduced but if you want something good and cheap for ranger just go for hell laser 50 hit. you can farm this yourself in restless lion if you want This is great advice. I personally am using a 50 Hit Le Cog and running through that quest for PBC (I think Malicious Uprising 4 if I am not mistaken) is quite easy. Sure the Hell Type Shot would kill things way faster but the Le Cog is efficient enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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