NightGen16
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57 minutes ago, shong said:
I did like 150+ runs mostly during HH and saw exactly 0 drop in a game I was in when everyone thought it was an easy drop, and my thought was that a few people just got lucky and the rate was in fact probably very difficult. I got burned out soloing 32 minute RTs for a guaranteed chance to get one if it dropped or doing 20 minute 2-4 man RTs for a lower chance of getting one if it dropped. Seeing that the rate is 1/341 just reinforces my belief that some people were very fortunate and now that people aren't getting very lucky, it just seems the rate is harder. I promise there were plenty of other people that did 100+ runs almost all during HH very early in the event that got no PGF. I haven't played in over a week and don't really plan to play again for a while, getting nothing from Olga for a hundred hours of grinding (and the horse shit of getting 4 noob/hp total from over 120 presents) took the fun out of the game for me. Maybe Valentine's or Easter. If I had known it was 1/341 from the start, I doubt I would've even bothered trying to get one. For some people it's worth it to run hundreds of RTs, to me it's not. If 1/341 was a year round drop rate that would be fine and I'd be cool running a bunch of RT now and then until I got one. For one event I just feel forced to do 1 quest to the point that I'm not enjoying the game any more.
Boy aint this the entire truth. your post hit the most bars lol
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Buy deez nuts or catch these hands lmao @Kush
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i love reading how much people have been crying lol but i agree with all of y'all.. this rate is ridiculous once again if that's what it is 1/341. My GOD
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I got some DTs, Items, and PDs
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35 is reasonable but they are huntable right now so they are technically cheaper
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On 8/13/2013 at 4:05 PM, Shoutgu said:
So yeah, i thought we would need this topic. So ask away.
Oh and no trolling, flaming please, i dont want this topic to get locked. Thanks
I know this was 3 years ago but this is funny af lmao
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hes not those are potential stuffs
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like 350-400Dts and some change right now lol
like 350-400Dts and some change right no
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word its not anymore
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Offers and negotiations with these on my list (Editted)
of DTs
Slicer of Vengance and some DTs
Pair of Charge MEs and Demons and DTs
Pair off Yas Demon and Charge and DTs
Chromatic Orbs and DTs
Best offer will catch my attention.. PM me.
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Lol y'all got my words mixed up when I clearly said I am aware of the times of Cyane and Mio and that they run on their schedules which is why I said having more GM's wouldn't be a bad idea at least it will be disbursed throughout the entire day of the event and not just a fixed point because like I said I made it to the server on the 18th which is one of the days of the event it's not like I could just say oh no I'm not gonna work at this time because I want to play a game think of it. I know this server is free but I just basically said expanding their time frames would be better I could give two craps about not getting my items obviously I would've wanted to add some hit also. But regardless of a two weeks notice you can't just tell your boss your not coming in today. And you can't tell your assignments/studies that they got to wait when they have a due date like the time that I could make it on the 18th was not long and I was on for about two hours trying to contact GM's or anything but what can I do if they can't reply yet?
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This may be offensive to you guys in the slightest but I hope that its not and its more an understanding here.
My biggest issue with this server is that one we do not have too many gms so the workload on such gms is too much specifically while hosting private/short-term events. We all run on different times, different zones, and different schedules. So I understand what Cyane means by she is tired and she had done all the work in regards to majority of the "HIT" event that just passed and that I practically missed not to my own accord but because of my schedule. I understand that I should have maybe given a team member my items or pds or so that I wanted hit on but then again I did not have a clear schedule for this weekend. I got called in like 3 times from friday-sunday and I have to study for certain exams, complete certain assignments, etc while still keeping up with the time frame of when events happen? I mean if I'm here when the event is scheduled like I was on the 18th shouldn't I have access to a gm ready to redeem items or already in the process at that specific time. I mean I'm just sick and tired of hopping on and then hearing that happy hour was like 30 mins ago and I missed it by a hair or I log off and hear oh now its happy hour when I had been spending time hunting for the past 3 hours. Or sick of hearing I miss crucial game changing events like the hit event because I was forced to be doing something else during the hours that it was on. I mean it is a game at the end of the day and should it not cater to the players? It does sound like I'm complaining but I've been on server for five years, yes we got new items, new upgrades to forums, new launchers, etc but maybe implementing a textalert would be a great idea at the least. Its not every time that I am going to be able to check this website to see if something is going on. So getting a text would be so much more efficient. I mean like I am now say a five year veteran on this ultima sever that I've helped people numerous times on but yet it just seems like I get pooped out of luck or the short end of the stick with these kinda once in a blue moon events. Like I bust my behind for some pds and then the days come and suddenly I'm not able to make it but I've been on server for so long and yet no mercy on maybe being lateish. I mean I did hop on during the day eastern time US on the 18th and I heard that hit event just ended 30 mins ago right before a Happy Hour and at that point I'm just like should it not be an all day event then?
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Apparently when I run launcher.exe and the whole sonic team and logos are done I reach the main menu and then when I push a key to login my client crashes. Psobb.exe has stopped working so I can't play.
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i have lost these three mags thanks to a bank bug and i knew the exact mags just didn't have the pictures yet :L
Hopefully we can recover them i would not be making it up i event lost 3 other mags and 2 cent powers in the same bug but i dont remember the 3 other mag stats
Green Nidra 5/0/45/150 twins leila pilla
ROBOCHAO 5/125/70/0 twins, dragon, pilla
ELENOR 5/155/40/0 twins leila pilla
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I also can invite you to the team ☺
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is this just rage or actual usefull information
its suppose to be useful information to go off from I was not trying to create World War Ultima with this post.
If people didn't like what I said just look at what Cy said and go off of that
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Lol once again you guys that are saying that this is me complaining n this is pointless your not looking at the fact that this is not for a player like me . I have been around on the server for longer than you all and I've seen it all on top of the fact I have about every weapon in the game lol so me making this to complain about prices is not for me n for one I am not complaining I am stating the obvious for those of you who do not see it as that . that's fine obviously the topic is not for you. There are those who actually like the fact that I actually said something on the matter.
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wow and this is one of the reasons why i don't try an help people out anymore first of all i am not complaining about anything for one i am trying to help you all out by helping you understand that if we were to maybe successfully create a price check system to have a base foundation for how much things are worth then at least quote on quote "new" players or just us in general will have something to look at before making a irrational offer. sellers wont have the opportunity to be upset about not getting the most out of their items if there is already a set price on the behalf anyways . n i am not saying that if someone feels like paying more for something than they can just pay for it right then and there thats basically like an 'offer'. what i'm saying is to mainly protect players from overpaying i could give a rats behind about the details of an economy. i just want us to have a good place to look at on stuff. tsk i might even be the one to make a item price chart with the help of gms, saith, etc, input from players like you got it all wrong on what i mean by any of this.
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So what you're saying is YOU determine the price of a PD not the market and the demand? Give me a break. People pay what people want to. As for items that's a different story.
I don't care if an item is common or impossible to find. If it's useful and I want it, i'll pay what I like.
Why do you spend so much effort trying to police everyone and force the market to your prices? If people ask too much, someone won't buy, if people still buy, that IS the price. Get over it.
That is not what i was saying at all, in fact none of that came out of my mouth or my fingers from typing. It is not I who determines the value of items if you want to follow the market prices and make the game fair to all there has to be boundaries. Dark Weapons or "DW" have little to no boundaries "STA" does not either those are what you would say whatever goes, goes. But as far as smaller items we as the ultima community aren't to be randomly breaking prices and causing confusion amongst each other all the time. this is why someone can price something like a Psycho Raven at say 25DTS which is like basically saying a Psycho Raven has an equivalent value to that of a Rico's Parasol which is absurd. Especially considering how good a something like a Psycho Raven is and how much goes into making a really good one. No one is policing around anything and if an item is uncommon of course its value would be more than something that drops like candy. you just don't ignore base values of items before you price them which is what people seem to do and create more confusion. Your idea on this matter is not what i was aiming for. If something is useful and you want you buy it yes but the seller has to have a bases to the price of the item they sell so that they don't off the rip over price you, a common goer. how would you know what your paying for going in at it blind because some player tells you oh this is the price of MG+ at say 70 pds when really someone who understand its value makes sense of it at 35pds? wouldn't you rather the chance of spending those other 35pds on other items to your wanting rather than not knowing what you just used all your 70pds on just because you want it. if that is your offer on the item and it had no set price to begin with then that makes sense for you to spend as you please. its better to understand what your paying for as usual you don't just go to a common flee market and not ask how much for an object you've never seen before
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One thing that needs to stop is the random variants of prices on items particularly weapons. I know some of us be joking around and what not about the prices but we can't allow those jokes to ruin the value of all weapons. After I'm done putting my two cents into this feel free to add to the thread.
First lets break down the unit price of a DT to a PD
simply divide 99PDS into 15DTS your result.... 6.6 well hmmm how does that figure
1 DT = 6.6PDS
you shouldn't be going around charging 20DTS for 99pds nor should you go around breaking the "ULTIMA Market" doing 15DTS for 60pds. it just creates confusion and reduces the market stability. SO...
Were gonna go off the basic 15DTS. here is a basic no stat weapon 0/0/0/0
15DTS will give it 35% on one attribute so do the math 45DTS will give you 100/5/0/0 so put another 45DTS into it and you will have 100/100/10/0 right so leme just stop right there. The item is already worth 90dts right?
So lets start with a basic no HIT weapon 0/0/0/0/0 put in mind that not all weapons are as effective as others and do not have the same status. Some are of course easier to farm than others making their value drop enough to not be in the same league. So if you find a 40 hit Frozen Shooter it would not be worth 20DTS because it isn't a hard farm. Now if you just so happen to find a Rianov-5 with 40 hit its already worth those 40 DTS
Okay so now it takes 15DTS to add 20% on weapon HIT. so lets use the whole 60DTS that it takes to make a weapon go from no HIT to 80 HIT. 0/0/0/0/80. This weapon is officially on the league of 60 DTS. Once again a Frozen Shooter with 80 HIT would not be worth 60DTS it would likely be around 20-25DTS n some change (pds) depending on stats that it has with it.
So let's go to something like a Master Raven or a Last Swan which has no stats and will always be blank to start because you can only get them from a black paper deal quest that will give them with no stats at all. now master ravens and last swans are very useful to hunters because you all know hunters do not have much luck with ranged weapons right. So a MAX stat Master Raven or a Last Swan would be around 135-145DTS so there is no way that a Psycho Raven with MAX stats should be worth any lower than that amount already on top of the fact that it takes a Psycho Black Crystal which is worth like 70pds outside the event to make it and to even make it you have to grind your MASTER RAVEN to 9 and then use the crystal and after that you have to have done the labor of obtaining the MASTER RAVEN in the black paper deal. then you have to grind the PSYCHO RAVEN up to 80 so it can be considered MAXED. So it can't be worth under 150DTS . So a Dual Bird which is MAXED shouldn't be any lower than 150DTS because the items needed to make it will never come with stats unless you donated for it to have stats. And we all no the effectiveness those few weapons that I just compared.
Let's take apart an EXCALIBUR and the HUNDRED SOULS
LAMES definitely do not drop like candy as to that of pow mats and you know, the frozen shooters but it is still possible to find it with hit it just takes a little luck n some dedicated happy hours. so like 20 hit on a Lame doesn't necessary make it worth 15DTS as it is very obtainable. YOU CAN HUNT A DECENT LAME it is "hunteable" year round. with that said so you find a lame with some hit on it. the labor of unsealing it to make it an excal is about5-10pds. Lames are normally around 12-15pds because of the hunt. So add the labor of unsealing it and you find yourself with an excal at around 22-25pds. it has lets say 20 hit. this excal can go for around 40pds because the hit is naturally obtainable. a 20 HITTER and some stats let's say around 0/35/25/0/20 can shoot the prices up to about 10-15 more pds making it around 50ishpds. now to make this thing a HUNDRED SOULS you would need the SOUL BOOSTER which outside the event is worth about 30-40pds it is definitely an easy hunt during events but of course it doesnt drop like candy and it is an event only item so it gets that value. It is definitely not worth more than 7DTS so careful on overpricing things like that. So you get the HUNDRED SOULS now with the stats of 0/35/35/0/20 so its around 90pds right? it hasn't even touched 15 DTS yet. now you make it 80 HIT which is about 45DTS from that 20 HITTER. 30DTS to bring it up to 0/100/40/0/80 n then about two photon spheres so 30DTS again.
HUNDRED SOULS MAXED sits at around 105-115DTS. it should not be any higher than that because it simply should not be. If you took a HUNDRED SOULS from all 0's and you brought it to MAX using your DTS which would be around 140-150DTS that's your own problem. Other players should not have to pay the same amount you paid to MAX it just saying. So don't create over priced situation just because you paid for more on something. A really good LAME is obtainable n it most likely would not take you that many DTS to even get it to MAX if you hunted a good stat lame.
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While I do agree with all that say that force needs some love, I do think that the gear is already there to make forces stronger. People just have to take their time out to get them. There are the facts that techs basically don't deal enough damage in episode 2. They deal enough in episode 4 and enough against most enemies in episode 1. Gibarta has a design flaw and unless there was someway to make tech cast faster for it then it would still be useless. Maybe they can make it's freezing rate more successful then it would be a bit more useful.
But there are weapons that can be used by forces that aid them in combat. For one I can use lindcray now and deal ridiculous damage that people fear and are amazed by. Then there is the occasional LAME or Hundred Souls that if you are good with can be used with force. You just need the right mag. Then there is the occasional bringers rifle that if you put more than 50 hit on it, it becomes exceptionally useful for force. Type Me/Mechs that you can put demon on or charge and deal damage with on top of your buffs and debuffs actually can make you seem like a ranger. The only problem is just faster casting rate maybe being a bigger opening for forces because it does take a little time to debuff an enemy which allows them to get in your face in that debuffing time frame. Forces are pretty squishy so maybe if they had shields or armors that gave them more health and a tad bit more ata to counter act the "miss" that you might get with items with no hit. I mean there is noob/hp that helps with the "squishiness" a bit. As far as for Fomars they need to have more edk on a shield that boosts ata a bit also because they can't hit anything without the combination of Red Ring and Godric's Cloak and still are useless in tower because you would have to substitute Godric's Cloak for Sonic Team Armor or sacrifice a unit and Red Ring for wizard/resist and an Anti-Dark Ring.
I do think that a weapon that could boost megid success rate by a tad bit would be great.
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I was in class soft boy @wayne
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Pm me prices
The PGF rate is ridiculous
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For the record .. the GMs do speak to him about things like this and a lot of the new items its the GMs who take their time in creating them for us and of course they go through dumb approval processes but they do be trying. At the end of the day its his server so he can do whatever he wants with it.