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    Ultima Price Check Thread

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    Posted

    I've always been forthcoming of what goes into my pricing of things. You're a cool guy and fun to play with Tru, but your pricing is just fucked. There is no way you can legitimize saying that things like last swan 30hit or 70dark are worth 15 dts when it costs 25-30 dts to make that, or 75hit baranz costs 10-15 dts when the base price is 5 dts and 15 more dts for extra hit still wouldn't reach, or a demon me/mechs 70hit costing 55-60 dts when it takes 65 dts just to add special and hit and base price is 10-15 more dts, or that a PR 40hit is equal in price to a PBC.

    Your track record on pricing speaks for itself, and it proves you can't handle pricing.

    Obviously you're not gonna get your full investment back when you invest in a weapon. A maxed PR isn't gonna be worth the entire amount of DTs you invested plus the price of PBC. The fact you think that shows you don't know anything about prices and that you can't handle pricing.

    Ultima Price Check Thread

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    Posted

    The fact that you didn't take it into account before is part of the problem; many of your price checks are just plain ridiculous.

    You either way undervalue things, often at way less than it takes to make them (e.g. demon me/mech 70hit you valued 55-60 dts, it takes 65 dts just to give it special and 70hit, not to mention the base price of 10-15 dts on top of that, Charge Suppressed Gun 100n 100d 80h for 80dts is enough to sphere/add hit to a triple fifty one but ignores cost of special and base price, PR 60hit for 45dts and PR 40hit for 20-25dts [second costs more just to add hit, first is exactly enough for hit ignores base price], flowens 3084 30d 55h only 20 pds for second strongest sword with a little extra hit too, Baranz Launcher 75h only 10-15 dts when just adding hit to a 50hit one costs more than that, Iron Faust 40n 40a 40h only 25dts, sphered MM 100n 100a 50h only 30-35 dts, or those last swan's one with 70d and one with 30 hit only being 15 dts, and fully sphered 80hit dual birds only 100dts [takes ~150] and fully sphered PR only 120 dts, when every single % on those had to be added),

    or ridiculously overvalue them (e.g.master sword blank vs maxed 30 vs 110 dts, demonic fork blank and blood sword 40hit 30dts just wut, maxed lindcray 115-120 dts is a disgusting ripoff, Rico's Parasol 25-30dts, RM 50m 80d 60h for 45dts, Rianov5 only 40n 35d 35h for 30 dts, Soul Booster 20-25dts [anyone who was here last summer should know it's only like 5], Hundred Souls maxed for 135 dts wut),

    or are just plain inconsistent (between HS 100m 100d 45h and HS 100m 100d 50h you valued first one more than second one once and equal another time, HS 40d 40h is 20dts but HS 90d 50h is only 35 dts, AN 80h vs. AN 40n 100d 60h valued the extra 20 hit over the 40n 100d, Rico's Parasol 25-30 dts but maxed is only 70-80, or the last swans with 30hit and 70dark being priced same, or PR 40hit and PBC both being priced at 20-25 as well as max PR being way off proportionally).

    Some of the things are fine, but so many of the checks are fundamentally flawed and the magnitude by which they are off is more than just a little. Those examples show no consistent logic to your pricing; there are just way too many whoppers of bad advice in this thread.

    There's a reason we have the actual "Ultima's Official Price Guide" (something actually official and not a topic somebody randomly named official but really isn't) stickied, unlike this, and still up, updated, accepting feedback, and verified regularly.

    Everyone knows you have no idea about prices so I have no idea why you even bother posting.

    Ultima Price Check Thread

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    Posted

    I agree with most things in here for up to date prices, but I feel like you really underestimate Last Swan. It's one of my favorite/best weapons to use on HUcaseal and one with stats should be valued maybe more than you value it.

    That's fair. HUcaseal makes better use of Last Swan than any other class imo and considering the fact that HUcaseal is a high tier class it would make since to value it higher. I'll take that into consideration.

    Ultima Price Check Thread

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    Posted

    lmfao you get both of those weapons the same way and both are going to be blank so should cost the same not last swan being more

    Lmfao. By that logic all black paper 1 drops should be worth the same. T>Phoenix Claw for Last Swan

    -griffeni logic

    Price check please:

    Psycho Wand (I don't care much about stats, just want the RA-Tech boost)

    Thanks !

    40 pds
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    PRICE CHECK THREAD featuring how to Price Items Properly

    in Phantasy Star Online BB General

    Posted

    This game is pay to win like most modern games but at least it's possible to do everything without spending any money. So while there is definitely room for improvement as far as the business model is concerned, it could be much worse. One of my biggest complaints about PSO2 was the fact that many things required you to spend money.

    If spending real money was required for certain things here, I would quit this game too. The only exception would be if there was a cheap monthly fee that was required to play the game, but gave you access to everything. Then the game would be truly fair for everyone. Having a monthly fee also helps considerably for filtering out the worst kind of players. Unfortunately, when it comes to a private server for a game owned by Sega, you can't be too direct with charging money for it or else it would increase the chance of Sega shutting it down.

    I don't think a monthly charge would be good for this server because there's a lot of people who occasionally become inactive for a month or so. I've done that before, then I wouldn't feel like I'm getting anything for the monthly service. I would cancel and then I wouldn't have the incentive to start paying again. What got me back into the game was trying it out again after a month. I didn't know if I was gonna enjoy it after a month break or not, but I did. In addition, there are people who have been on this server for 3+ years who just log in occasionally and they surely wouldn't continue paying for 3 years straight. In additon, there are other servers who don't charge nor give donation incentives. I do see what you're saying though.

    PRICE CHECK THREAD featuring how to Price Items Properly

    in Phantasy Star Online BB General

    Posted

    Honestly, why are DTs even tradable to other players? There shouldn't be a way to trade reward currency for donating to anyone.

    I agree. Since dts are tradeable you can pretty much buy any item in the game with any stats you want. If you're willing to pay that much. Dts shouldn't be infinitely powerful like that.

    I think it would be better if they weren't tradable, and the donation list was adjusted so the prices made since and maybe they could add a few more things on there for people who are too lazy to hunt for certain things. Then let us add hit with pds. But I doubt that'll happen. It doesn't make much of a difference to me.

    PRICE CHECK THREAD featuring how to Price Items Properly

    in Phantasy Star Online BB General

    Posted

    The price of donation tickets has gone down based on what? Can someone please tell me a valid reason of why 1 DT is now 5 pds and not 6.6 pds as it used to be 1 or 2 months ago? As far as I know, in some cases, DTs are way better than pds at its use, but in some others PDs are.

    There are alot more dts in circulation. There's around the same amount of pds in circulation. People like using pds to buy items that are worth less than 1 dt. That's the main reason. Lemon is the only one making sense on this thread >.>

    Ultima Price Check Thread

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    Posted

    Hello,

    Price check please, I would like to buy a Lame and/or Excal

    please post Hit and no Hit Prices for both (just wanna make sure I'm not getting ripped off)

    Thank you !

    Without hit lame is 10-15 pds unless it has really good stats.

    With hit it's much more. It depends on how much hit though. It also greatly depends on the other stats, since excal is a weapon that benefits greatly from stats.

    pc>

    congeal cloak

    tempest cloak

    ty

    1 pd each (at most)

    Ultima Price Check Thread

    in Trade Center

    Posted

    I'm the worst. I buy tjs for 30dts and I sell for 270dts so I got you beat.

    Price check

    SOV set x2

    (Idk if different kind sets would rise prices due to preference

    100/100/0/0/80

    0/0/100/100/80

    And

    100/0/100/0/80

    0/100/0/100/80.

    Last swan 0/0/0/0/30

    Vjaya 100/0/0/100/80

    I forgot what else.

    Thanks for the helps tru

    In general I would say a maxed SOV would be 135 dts but it seems the price is going up so I guess you could go as high 150+ dts each

    Last Swan 0/0/0/0/30 15 dts

    Vjaya maxed 75 dts

    Tru, since you are the owner of this post I suggest to make a price check reference guide (maybe on the first page). There, you can place and update of all the price checks done so far. This may avoid confusion and people asking for the same PC again and again. I can always help if you want. :)

    Just saying palm ;)

    That's a pretty good idea. I've added all the price checks I've done in this thread to the main post. http://www.phantasystaronline.net/forum/index.php/topic/25975-official-ultima-price-check-thread/?p=147269

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    Ultima Price Check Thread

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    Posted

    PC>

    -Psycho Bridge 85/50/0/0|50

    -100 souls 100/0/100/0|80 + 100 souls 0/100/0/100|80

    -Ricos parasol 0/0/0/40|5 (x.x)

    -Master Sword 40d only

    -Lindcray 0/0/0/0|80 + Lindcray 0/0/35/40|80

    -Gael 5/150/45/0

    -Gael 25/25/150/0 :c

    -Dark Flow 100/0/100/0|80 + Dark Flow 0/0/0/40|80

    -TJS 70/0/100/0|80 + TJS 0/0/0/0|50

    -Dark Meteor 100/100/0/0|80 + Dark Meteor 0/0/100/100|80

    -Arrest needle (2x 40% no hit)

    ty :3

    Dark weapons are really hard to value, I'm just gonna say above 500 dts I guess.

    Hundred Souls maxed 130-135 dts each

    Rico's Parasol 25-30 dts

    Master Sword 30 dts

    Lindcray 0/0/0/0|80 65-70 dts

    Lindcray 0/0/35/40|80 85 dts

    Gael 5/150/45/0 25 honestly those stats aren't too good, but neither is the mag so I'm not sure if that matters. 25 dts

    Gael 25/25/150/0 10-15 dts

    TJS 70/0/100/0|80 150-155 dts it's unusual to see a max machine TJS

    TJS 0/0/0/0|50 80 dts

    Arrest Needle 40% 5-10 dts

    price on three seals please

    20-25 pds

    PC > LAst Swan 70 D

    I feel like since ME mechs are easier to get and lindcray exists, this weapon isn't as useful as it used to be.

    15 dts.

    force a stronger class

    in Phantasy Star Online BB General

    Posted

    Yeah resistances are higher on this server on ultimate for many enemies. I want to add when a gi boosting wep gets released it would make sense for it to have a fast casting animation for male FOs since they already get gi boosts. Bare handed is quick (so it could be a knuckle type wep). I'll try to collect frame data to see which other ones are fast.

    force a stronger class

    in Phantasy Star Online BB General

    Posted

    I absolutely agree with everything Cyane said. I think she's expressing the biggest concerns as far as changes go.

    Other than that, I think some resistances could be adjusted slightly.

    And I'd love an armor or unit that helps with combat forces (like godrics cloak).

    The main thing by far is increasing the material limit for newm/wearl. The struggle is real with 150 mats :"L

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    Small Tru Shop c:

    in Trade Center

    Posted · Edited by tru

    Before you consider buying anything realize the only time I'm available to trade during weekdays is 3:00-6:00 pm server time so if you're not gonna be available during that time due to the time zone you're in or whatever I'd rather not try to set up a trade. Click on this link to find how your time compares to the server time http://phantasystaronline.net/

    Weekends are usually pretty open for me.

    I will not do a trade for 1 pd unless it's very convenient. As a general rule, minimum purchase at my shop is 2 pds. If you find me in game I'd much prefer that to PMs c:

    Unless you're buying a large quantity of goods, I only want convenient trades. Thanks c:

    Here's some stuff

    Mother Garb+ 35 pds

    Heaven Punisher 30 pds

    V502 5 pds
    Spread Needle blank 4 pds

    Lame D'Argent 0/0/0/40/0 12 pds

    Lame D'Argent 0/0/0/55/0 17 pds

    Lame D'Argent 0/0/30/35/0 20 pds

    Lame D'Argent 0/0/35/35/0 20 pds

    Blue Odoshi Violet Nimaidou 3 pds

    Yasminkov 9000M 3 pds

    Yasminkov 7000V 1 pd

    Yasminkov 3000R 1 pd

    Frozen Shooter blank 1 pd

    Select Cloak 4 slots 1 pd

    Guardianna 40/0/50/0/25 1 pd

    Sacred Guard 3 pds

    Last Survivor 35/0/0/0/50 2 pds

    Dragon Slayer 0/0/35/0/45 2 pds

    Diska of Braveman 25 hit 2 pds

    Lord Handgun 0/0/35/30/45 1 pd

    Blizzard Vulcan 0/0/0/0/35 1 pd

    Silence Claw 30 hit 1 pd

    Elysion 30 hit 1 pd

    Holy Ray blank 1 pd

    Gae Bolg 35/0/0/0/35

    Berserk Vulcans 45/0/0/15/40 2 pds

    Hell Vulcan 0/40/30/0/40 2 pds

    Caduces 1 pd

    Sange 40/0/40/0/35 1 pd

    Demolition Comet 0/0/45/30/40 2 pds

    Demolition Comet 0/0/30/25/35 1 pd

    Demolition Comet 0/40/0/0/45 2 pds

    Slicer of Fanatic 35/0/0/0/0 2 pds

    All Viviennes are 1 pd unless they have 40 or more hit, then they are 2 pds

    Vivienne 0/0/0/30/40

    Vivienne 0/0/40/0/40

    Vivienne 25/0/35/0/35

    Vivienne 0/0/35/15/25

    Vivienne 0/40/35/0/30

    Vivienne 45/45/0/0/25

    Vivienne 0/0/0/45/35

    Vivienne 0/0/30/0/15

    Vivienne 0/0/30/50/35

    Vivienne 0/55/0/0/35

    Vivienne 0/0/35/30/35

    Vivienne 0/0/0/0/25

    Vivienne 0/0/0/35/40

    All Flapjack Flappers are 1 pd

    40/0/40/0/25

    20/0/0/30/30

    0/0/45/40/30

    30/0/0/30/40

    Daylight Scar 0/0/0/0/30 4 pds

    V501 2 pd

    Heavenly/Power 2 for 1 pd

    Add Slots 4 for 1 pd

    If things sell well in this shop I'll add more stuff c:

    I accept DTs too. Not really interested in anything outside of PDs and DTs.

    Ultima Price Check Thread

    in Trade Center

    Posted

    Another price check for me please , might be making a deal but just need a few opinions on a 80hit zero stat arrest needle my guess 50 to 60 dts but prices on bigger items have changed since I last sold any : 0 Ty in advance : )

    Yeah I'd say 45-50 dts.

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