Shisui Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, Nightmare2.0 said: gimme 2 mins i will search. i know theres such a thread and yeah try /matcount https://www.phantasystaronline.net/forum/index.php?/topic/6440-enemy-counts/&_fromLogin=1 and here the enemys count. but these counts are for the whole quest and is not always the fastest way to hunt those mobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shong Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Awesome, ty so much 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
under9000 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 22 hours ago, Fyrewolf5 said: hmmm.... I just did some limited testing to check some stuff out, these are my results. Mag Sync/IQ Type yes no TestValue Puyo120/200 1/10th 47 5 1 Nidra120/200 Boss 85 15 1 Sato 120/200 Boss 56 44 0 /edit for length Your tests support the boosts. Sato has no boost (50%) for boss room activation, Nidra does for boss room and Puyo does for the 1/10 and all results supported the boosts. Seems legit imo. The only strange modifier on Sato is for bad sync on 100 PB activation. If you have 0 sync on Sato, reaching 100 PB will never give invincibility. "Tesselate http://puu.sh/pAhFZ/47f5913e0d.jpg Some examples to look for... Nidra: Positive Boss Room (Invincibility) Agastya: Positive 100% PB (Resta Invincibility) and Positive Boss Room (Invincibility) Gael Giel: Positive 100% PB (Invincibility) and Positive Boss Room (S/D) Sato: Negative 100% PB (Invincibility) " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyrewolf5 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) On 8/13/2016 at 3:47 PM, under9000 said: Your tests support the boosts. Sato has no boost (50%) for boss room activation, Nidra does for boss room and Puyo does for the 1/10 and all results supported the boosts. Seems legit imo. The only strange modifier on Sato is for bad sync on 100 PB activation. If you have 0 sync on Sato, reaching 100 PB will never give invincibility. As I said, it was limited gathering of a single sample and I did not have a non-120% synchro mag to test with. It's some evidence that there is another factor that affects proc chance besides the listed 50%, but it's not evidence for synchro yet, and it's still weak since need more samples and repeated tests of the variables. Statistics does not allow extrapolation about other data that is not included; I can only interpolate about the data I have, not what I think other potential data might be like, so I can't say that synchro affects mag proc without samples of other synchro amounts. I'd probably want to test some non-rare mags with their lesser base proc chances to see just how much the bonus / penalty affects things, I've gotten invince at 100pb on 0% sato before so I know the chance isn't 0. Also can't say what synchro value (if that is the sole extra factor) gives the expected trigger chance, It could be that 0% or 120% respectively still don't give expected trigger chance, or the bonus / penalty may start / stop at certain values, or some other unforseen irregularities (e.g. I was doing pilla scaling testing the other day and got some very strange differing results for identical stats, which I haven't figured out the cause for yet). The limited testing I did is evidence of something, but what that something is I can't say without more data, I can't make any comparisons to data I don't have, so everything is just speculation. Intesting notes about chart in the link : Most standard cell mags and formula mags are 1001, exceptions being the 3 force formula mags (nidra 0001, sato 2000, bhima 1002), the Cell of Mag 502 / 213 mags (Pitra 0020, Soniti 0020, Pretra 0020, Churel 0021), and only some of the ep4 cells (Tellusis 0020, Striker 0021, Pioneer 0000, Puyo 1100, Moro 0000, Rappy 0000, Geung-Si 0020). This should mean that pitri, soniti, pretra, tellusis, pioneer, moro, rappy, and geung-si are functionally identical with neither bonuses nor penalties if the hypothesis is correct (death trigger only works offline and blue burst is always online), and churel, striker unit, puyo, nidra, sato and bhima are mixed bags. Puyo is also the only mag shown that has a 1 (or anything other than 0 really) for the 1/10th hp trigger. The picture doesn't show all of the regular mags so I won't try to find any patterns there, and there is also the strange unknown 3/4 variable (only shown for death trigger in chart, but not every mag is shown). Edited August 15, 2016 by Fyrewolf5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shong Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Do monsters here have significantly higher defense/resist? Just did my first ult TTF at level 104 and basically contributed nothing to the group after the dragon. Felt guilty but it never occurred to me that I would do 0-10 damage. Obviously using terrible gear as I'm new here but I was still surprised. I guess it's also been over 8 years since I made my last fresh PSO character so maybe I just forgot how weak they are when you don't start out maxed on mats, 200 mag and dream gear lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midori Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 @shong I think all of the monster stats in Ultimate have been increased by 20%, except for resists, which are the same as vanilla PSO. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keikito Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Can anyone confirm having found a Lame, on ORAN, pioneer spirit 1player quest? I have literally killed thousands and on happy hours. Still no luck. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solo guy Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 1 hour ago, keikito said: Can anyone confirm having found a Lame, on ORAN, pioneer spirit 1player quest? I have literally killed thousands and on happy hours. Still no luck. Thanks in advance. Yep confirmed , I've found 3 ( no hit ones though ) although not often but it's a good hunt due to dropping v502 and v101 aswell so you can make some pds aswell . I only use that quest as the dorphons are weaker and you get some free meat shields to tank and it's easiest access to 4 dorphons you can get , keep trying : ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shisui Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 why cant i use tablet cell on my mag? O.o actually my mag is lvl 101 (marica 1/69/31/0) do i have to use something before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleR Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 need to be rukmin rare mag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shisui Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 rip x-x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depassage Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I don't know if this has been asked before but what's the rate for Kondrieu to spawn with and without green names? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shong Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 on a kondy related note, can you still run sub desert, and if kondrieu shows up, you can do 9-5 (or 9-4, i forget) and he will show up again guaranteed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyrewolf5 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 2 hours ago, shong said: on a kondy related note, can you still run sub desert, and if kondrieu shows up, you can do 9-5 (or 9-4, i forget) and he will show up again guaranteed? You probably mean 9-8, and yes, whether or not kondrieu will spawn is set on room creation so if you run regular sub-desert and then do 9-8, pod, lost master blaster, or lost son hopkins, kondrieu will spawn again at the end. However, doing regular sub-desert is so ridiculously long anyway that it's really not better than doing pod, which is much much shorter and easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shisui Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 3 hours ago, shong said: on a kondy related note, can you still run sub desert, and if kondrieu shows up, you can do 9-5 (or 9-4, i forget) and he will show up again guaranteed? the rate is 1/10 i think c: and as saith said best thing is to run pod but if youre hunting something from kondi i would wait for green names except youre after dragon scale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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