Zynetic Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I decided to write this due to seeing so many "What ID should I pick?" and so many arguments over the question, as everyone has conflicting opinions. Here, I am going to run down the IDs, from best to worst, with class recommendations (just what's the best, but don't worry, the better IDs aren't bad on other classes, too) and WHY I have picked x over y. Note: If any drops I list are wrong, or missing (make sure they're useful drops, please...), please correct me. 1. Purplenum Class Recommendation: FO FO? This one is simple. Because Purplenum has the best E4 drop chart in the game (Oran comes close). Due to classes such as FOnewm and FOnewearl having such high solo nuking potential, they make perfect solo hunters for the Episode 4 maps. This ID is also very good on a HU/RA, as Purplenum also receives very good drops in Episode 1, too. Unfortunately, not much can be said for Episode 2, but this applies to all IDs, really... (with a few one or two item exceptions). The Items Episode 1 Hildetorr: Frozen Shooter Mil Lily: Psycho Wand Canabin: Kasami Bracer Canune: Yasminkov 9000M (A little rare, but) Baranz: Parts of Baranz Merlan: Spread Needle Bulclaw: DF Field (Good for trading) Dark Bringer: Bringer's Right Arm Episode 2 Crimson Assassin: Yasminkov 9000M Mericarol: Heaven Punisher (arguable... was a good ID for Punisher until rare enemy appearance rate here) Ill Gill: Demonic Fork Episode 4 Sand Rappy: Lieutenant Mantle (Trap Vision) Boota: Daylight Scar Ze Boota: Centurion/Abililty Ba Boota: Blue Odoshi Violet Nimaidou Satellite Lizard: Photon Crystal Astark: Swordsman Lore Pazuzu: Heavenly/Arm Pyro Goran: Heaven Striker Goran Detonator: Slicer of Fanatic Girtablulu: Swordsman Lore (wow, 2 enemies) Very Hard Sand Rappy: Glide Divine Zu: V101 Girtablulu: Swordsman Lore 2. Redria Class recommendation: HU HU? Though there are many other good IDs which may be more 'suited' to a HU (read: Skyly), it's generally better if you give the HU Redria, the RA Skyly and the FO Purplenum, providing you are going to play all three. Redria gets a very good Episode 1 chart, while although the Episode 2 and 4 charts are not as good, they are still decent. Due to HUs having the easiest time in E1, RAs having the easiest time in E2 and FOs having the easiest time in E4, I think you can see where I am going with this. The Items Episode 1 Bartle: Diska of Braveman (good w/ 45H+) Hildetorr: Magic Stone Iritista (tradebait) Pouilly Slime: Lavis Cannon (tradebait) Sinow Blue: Kasamia Bracer Arlan: Diska of Braveman Merlan: DF Field (tradebait) Dark Bringer: Spread Needle Dark Falz: Red Ring (1/64) Episode 2 Arlan: Diska of Braveman Mothvert: Diska of Braveman Migium: Diska of Braveman Dolmolm: Monkey King Bar Episode 4 Sand Rappy: Lieutenant Mantle (Trap Vision) Boota: Daylight Scar Ze Boota: Centurion/Ability Ba Boota: Blue Odoshi Violet Nimaidou Pazuzu: V801 Dorphon: Thirteen (one of the best armours, providing you use Braveman) Pyro Goran: Heaven Striker Shambertin: Wedding Dress Kondrieu: Limiter Very Hard Sand Rappy: Glide Divine Pazuzu: V801 Girtablulu: Swordsman Lore 3/4. Oran (Tie with Greenill) Class Recommendation: FO FO? Arguably, it's Episode 4 drop table easily compares to Purplenum. It might not be as good, but it's still damn good. It's Episode 1 and 2 tables are really lacking, but it's one of the better drop rates of Psycho Wand in Episode 2, along with Purplenum (easily the best due to increase rare enemy rate) and Bluefull. Using techlock spam, it's not too hard to kill the first three Gibbles on PW4, but that quest is done better with a RAmar/l. The Items Episode 1 Hildetorr: Syncesta (tradebait) Bulclaw: Kasami Bracer Dark Bringer: Prophets of Motav Episode 2 Mil Lily: Aura Field Gibbles: Psycho Wand Ill Gill: Demonic Fork Episode 4 Sand Rappy: Lieutenant Mantle (Trap Vision) Boota: Daylight Scar Ze Boota: Centurion/Ability Ba Boota: Blue Odoshi Violet Nimaidou Astark: V502 Zu: V101 Pazuzu: Vivienne Dorphon: Lame D'Argent Goran Detonator: Slicer of Fanatic Girtablulu: Limiter Kondrieu: V502 Very Hard Sand Rappy: Glide Divine Zu: V101 Pazuzu: Vivienne Merissa AA: Heavenly/Arms Girtablulu: Slicer of Fanatic 3/4. Greenill (Tie with Oran) Class Recommendation: RA RA? Although Greenill is really just a weaker Purplenum, you're honestly better giving Purplenum to the FO, due to the much stronger E4 drop table. Greenill is decent in E4, obtains Guld in E2 and has some decent E1 drops. It's really balanced across all the episodes more so than any other ID, and since RA is the best class in this game (no matter what you think), it's the most balanced option you could choose. The Items Episode 1 Hildetorr: Frozen Shooter Canune: Kasami Bracer (really rare, but) Baranz: Parts of Baranz Merlan: Spread Needle Del-D: DF Field (tradebait) Dark Bringer: Bringer's Right Arm Episode 2 (Okay, of course, but generally, this is an extremely good item) Delsaber: Guld (extremely good tradebait) Episode 4 Sand Rappy: Lieutenant Mantle (Trap Vision) Boota: Daylight Scar Ze Boota: Centurion/Ability Ba Boota: Blue Odoshi Violet Nimaidou Astark: Clio Dorphon Eclair: Cannon Rouge Pyro Goran: Heaven Striker Goran Detonator: Slicer of Fanatic Very Hard Sand Rappy: Glide Divine Anything below this I do not recommend as your starting IDs, but they are decent for specfic items. 5. Whitill Class recommendation: RA RA? Simple answer: They're balanced over Episode 1 and 2. Due to the introduction of the Wedding Dress boost, they are one of only three who obtain the armour. Personally, you're better doing Redria, in my opinion, due to it being a trucktonne better of an ID, but Whitill has its items, especially the 1/36 Red Ring drop and Guld. The Items Episode 1 Tollaw: Milla (GOOD Tradebait if hit) Mothvert: Diska of Braveman (Good w/ 45H+) Hildetorr: Frozen Shooter Baranz: Parts of Baranz Bulclaw: DF Field (tradebait) Gran Sorcerer: Guld (GOOD tradebait) Dark Falz: Red Ring (1/36) Episode 2 (Diska of Braveman) Arlan: Diska of Braveman Ob Lily: Diska of Braveman Pan Arms: Diska of Braveman Gee: Diska of Braveman Ul Gibbon: Diska of Braveman Zol Gibbon: Diska of Braveman Sinow Zoa: Diska of Braveman Epsilon: Wedding Dress Episode 4 Sand Rappy: Lieutenant Mantle (Trap Vision) Boota: Daylight Scar Ze Boota: Centurion/Ability Ba Boota: Blue Odoshi Violet Nimaidou Dorphon: Thirteen (one of the best armours if you are using Braveman) Girtablulu: Slicer of Fanatic Kondrieu: Lame D'Argent Very Hard Sand Rappy: Glide Divine Zu: V101 Pazuzu: Vivienne Dorphon Eclair: Vivienne 6. Skyly Class recommendation: RA omfg zyn ur such a noob. Skyly on RA?? LOLWTF!!1 evry1 knows that HU is best ID for Skyly because it gets CS/RS/SJS/Lame!11!!1 and y iz it so low? one of best IDs!! SJS!!!!!11 Okay, please stop. For starters, Skyly is NOT a fantastic ID. The items it obtains are limited, extremely rare or not too great. (CS/RS aren't fantastic, but they're decent). Secondly, please attempt hunting Sealed J-Sword and Lame D'Argent faster than a RA can on a HU. I will bet you that you cannot do it. To dumb this down, a RA can hunt anything better than a HU can, due to the items they obtain, and the ease it is to play a RA (especially RAmarl/RAcast). The Items Episode 1 Vulmer: Chain Sawd (not too great, but I thought I'd list it) Govulmer: Red Sword (best sword if you cannot bear to hunt SJS for TJS, and if you lack a Flow) Dark Falz: Red Ring (1/64) Episode 2 Gi Gue: Sealed J-Sword Sinow Spigell: Heaven Punisher (arguable... due to rare enemy appearance rate being higher) Episode 4 Sand Rappy: Lieutenant Mantle (Trap Vision) Boota: Daylight Scar Ze Boota: Centurion/Ability Ba Boota: Blue Odoshi Violet Nimaidou Pazuzu: Vivienne Dorphon: Lame D'Argent Goran Detonator: V502 Kondrieu: Swordsman Lore (might not be correct) Very Hard Pazuzu: Vivienne See what I mean now? Skyly is really not a great ID compared to others. 7. Yellowboze Class recommendation: HU HU? It was actually very hard to decide on a decent class for Yellowboze, seeing how it's rather subpar to other IDs... I hear alot of good things about this ID, as it 'apparently' gets alot of good items, but when I put this on my HUcast, I found myself limited to one or two hunts, as the amount of good items yellow gets is rather limited. Due to most of them being in E1, I put the recommendation on a HU. The Items Episode 1 Hildetorr: Frozen Shooter Sinow Blue: Kasami Bracer Baranz: Parts of Baranz Merlan: Spread Needle Dark Bringer: Bringer's Right Arm Episode 2 Ob Lily: Flowen's Sword 3084 (decent tradebait to Spirit users) Migium: Diska of Braveman (good w/ 45H+) Episode 4 Boota: Daylight Scar Ze Boota: Centurion/Abililty Ba Boota: Blue Odoshi Violet Nimaidou Zu: V101 Dorphon Eclair: Cannon Rouge Pyro Goran: Heaven Striker Merissa AA: Heavenly/Arm Kondrieu: V502 Very Hard Sand Rappy: Lieutenant Mantle Zu: V101 7/8. Viridia (Tie with Bluefull) Class Recommendation: Not HU Viridia is an extremely bad ID, due to the lack of decent drops it gets. There's a few good items, but it's hard to actually pinpoint anything that's really fantastic about Viridia. I recommend something that's not a HU due to the Limiter drop it gets coming from Girtablulus, and since FOs can Grants Snipe / SoF Demon's, while RAs can Paralyse / Mech Demon's, it's really preferable to be one of those. The Items Episode 1 Nano Dragon: Red Sword Baranz: Parts of Baranz Dark Bringer: Bringer's Right Arm Dark Falz: Red Ring (1/64) Episode 2 NOTHING! (That's worth something / is of decent use) Episode 4 Sand Rappy: Lieutenant Mantle Boota: Daylight Scar Ze Boota: Centurion/Abililty Ba Boota: Blue Odoshi Violet Nimaidou Zu: V101 Girtablulu: Limiter Very Hard Sand Rappy: Glide Divine Zu: V101 Girtablulu: Limiter 8/9. Bluefull (Tie with Viridia) Class Recommendation: ...Anything? Really, really bad ID, in the same boat as Viridia. It gets like 0 decent drops, exceptions being the Punisher for tradebait (or for useless DP / Mille Marteux) and Limiter. Not much I can think to say about this... The Items Episode 1 Hildetorr: Heaven Punisher Nano Dragon: Kasami Bracer (really rare, but) Episode 2 Ill Gill: Demonic Fork Delbiter: Psycho Wand (debatable due to Purple Mil) Episode 4 Sand Rappy: Lieutenant Mantle Boota: Daylight Scar Ze Boota: Centurion/Ability Ba Boota: Blue Odoshi Violet Nimaidou Astark: Limiter Pazuzu: Opheilie Seize Goran Detonator: V101 Kondrieu: Mercuricus Rod Very Hard Ba Boota: Daylight Scar Astark: V801 Girtablulu: Slicer of Fanatic 10. Pinkal Class recommendation: FO, but nothing if you can help it The WORST ID in this entire game, even with the addition of Shambertin Limiter and Wedding Dress. It gets NO drops, except a minute few, so I do advise to avoid this ID at all costs if you can help it. The Items Episode 1 Bulclaw: DF Field (tradebait) Dark Bringer: Bringer's Right Arm Episode 2 Ill Gill: Demonic Fork Epsilon: Wedding Dress Episode 4 (Luckily, a little more forgiving) Sand Rappy: Lieutenant Mantle (Trap Vision) Boota: Daylight Scar Ze Boota: Centurion/Ability Ba Boota: Blue Odoshi Violet Nimaidou Del Rappy: Clio Pazuzu: V801 Pyro Goran: Heaven Striker Dorphon Eclair: Heavenly/Arm Shambertin: Limiter Very Hard Sand Rappy: Glide Divine Astark: V801 Dorphon Eclair: Heavenly/Arm I hope this list helps you decide on a Section ID. Have fun! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I would argue but everytime I've done that you've had superior knowledge to this game since you have no life outside it. Thanks for the list. I really was debating a Skyly argument, but then i saw "Not recommended as starting ID" and i was like "Oh, well thats fine then..." XD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldama Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 This guide should be stickied. Main points i would like to reiterate: 1) Bluefull is bad. I 3/4 agree with that statement aside from the fact that people on this server love them some heaven punisher and it is a good ID to have to make some trades 2) Pinkal is worst id. I have a 194 pinkal FO. I am making a Purple FO to replace her. I think you get the idea. 3) Purplenum has best all round drops. Frozen, Spread, v101, Slicer of Fanatic, Psycho Wand, Heaven Striker, Glide Divine, and Bringer's arm. I mean... what else could you REALLY want weapons wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzak420 Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 pink id is good for new forces who don't plan on playing that long. I heard pinkal gets better tech drops. I wonder if it is true, any idea Azami? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynetic Posted March 2, 2011 Author Share Posted March 2, 2011 (edited) Nope, not true. It was true for Dreamcast, but after that, it was scrapped. And well, I don't really see the use of Pinkal, even for a force who won't play for long... Just ask any Pinkal for a Wand Trio and you've got it, lol. I'm sure Pinkals won't mind emptying their bank abit. xD On BB, it works like this: Each ID gets a different set of techniques and level ranges for each technique in each area. For example, Viridia can get 30 Rafoei in Forest 2 Ultimate (If I remember correctly), but Whitill can't, instead finding Gifoei 30 in Ruins 1 Ultimate. Holy shit lol, someone's butthurt and negative rep'd both of my posts. Edited March 2, 2011 by Zynetic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldama Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 PInkal is horrible. Never make one -- This message is Azami Approved -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 LOL! Pinkal sucks? Azami approved? I use Apollo's Override! PINKAL IS PATHETIC! ---- This post is not Apollo approved.... wait what?---- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzak420 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Which id's get razonde 30 and rabarta 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davell Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 i have to agree overall with this guide. but heres my input for viridia its get the Raikiri katana. yah its not as good as most double hit weps or excal but most elites hunt for collectibles just to say they have it and raikiri is just one of those obscure rares. for ep2 it gets nei claw(difficult drop). yah u prolly wont see any HUney using it but again its one of those obscure rares. whitill gets da best Rika claw drop. not a wep u would main but yah.... they could be what you would call, "tradebait". My main and first char DAvell is blufull L190 n i got 191 alone pds on him n lots decent rares n equips. every id gets at least 1 decent drop dat other ids cant get n I say make da most of wat u got. Blufull sux, but it has da best limiter drop, so i farmed lots of limiters n built my wealth from my limiter sales. skyly has da SJS as its ace but datz a hard drop. yellowboze has da best zanba drop so a skilled yellow RA can get zanbas as tradebait. so yellowboze has alil light of hope. (is it me or do ppl think only skyly gets lame) Pinkal sux. in gc/xbox it was alil betta in comparison, but now dat its ep4 drops sux also, Pinkal has no hope. i will make a pinkal jus 2 hunt Berdyshs jus kuz i like partisans but dat would b it. n i dunt think any1 wants an evil curst.... but yah +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynetic Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) Of course there's 'collectables' for tradebait, but if you're wanting an ID for items, you're better hunting for useful items, as they'll also be worth more than 'collectables'. Would you pay more for a useless Raikiri or a Limiter? More for Nei's/Rika's Claw or Striker? It's really simple to think about. Also, I think that Viridia is an easier Limiter hunt as you can also hunt it on Very Hard. EDIT: I don't really know about 30 techs, I'd need the game data, which I don't have. :\ I only know what's been found in the past. EDIT 2: Razonde 30 can be found in Ruins 2 on Greenill. Edited March 3, 2011 by Zynetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonsl4y Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 nice guide its cleared sum things up for me, i hate making new chars purely cos i never know which ID to pick so thx! +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzak420 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 A GM once told me that Nei's claw (real) does not exist on this server! For some reason its on the donation list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentblue1987 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I would say Pinkal is bad but I find a retarded amount of wands and tech disks. Purplenum find retarded amounts of mech guns. Skyly find a lot of Swords... Redria is pretty rediculous at finding rare drops.. I have found more rare drops with redria than any other ID I've played, and in half the time. Yellowboze is great at finding Meseta, and %Hit items. Whitill is similar to Redria's rare finding but lower, lots of slicers. Greenill is a rifle whore. Bluefull is awesome for partisans and rods. Oran is a dagger whore. Viridia is the best at finding shotguns. What else am i missing............. http://psowiki.net/wiki/Pinkal#ID_Reviews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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