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Buenas noches a toda la comunidad de Ultima server, emito un saludo a través de la distancia. El servidor ha crecido enormemente, se ha llenado de gente increíble; algunas de habla inglesa, otras de habla hispana, brasilera, francesa, etc. Espero que mis palabras no ofendan a nadie pues no es mi intensión ocasionarlo. Este ha sido mi único servidor en los últimos 11 años y medios y he estado desde que  la “Dark Meteor” no tenía combo, e incluso desde estaban los Game masters Blue, Hollybass, Younkou entre otros y antes de que el Martin alias “Mio” fuera GM xD. Espero puedan quedarse hasta el final y leer completamente mi reseña, sin más preámbulo comienzo.

 

 

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En términos de igualdad entre clases ( Hunters, Rangers and Forces)  y géneros (hombres y mujeres) me parece pertinente que  exista  un equilibrio entre ellos desde el punto de vista de los ítems que s (e puedan usar en el servidor de Ultima Server. Un ejemplo hipotético muy claro que invita a quebrantar un principio de igualdad, sería el caso de que la sonic  team armor (mejor armadura del servidor) sea usable solamente en hombres y no en mujeres. Esto claramente dejaría en evidencia una desigualdad notoria entre géneros.

Así como se crea una norma,  detrás de toda norma existe una intención por la cual dicha norma fue creada, una razón que la motivó a ser generada. Así mismo invito a que los administradores que tienen la investidura y la información, Expliquen o den el “theorycraft” por llamarlo de alguna manera,  cual es el argumento mediante el cual, las mujeres "hunters" no pueden usar las Mille faucillies, y que los hombres si puedan usar las psycho ravens ( arma incluso mas overpower que las MF ). Que de antemano mi opinión personal, es que en principio las psycho ravens no deberían ser usables por los hunters. Ya que la idea es que la mejor metralleta sea usable solo en rangers. Asi mismo se respete el principio de que la mejor bar o la mejor doble espada sea solo usable por los hunter. Aquí hay una intrusión y no se respeta  la reserva de clase con las armas, caso que si ocurre y se respeta en el vanilla como seria por ejemplo una mille martreaux o una guld milla solo usable en ranger (usada por ambos generos) o una black kin bar o jizai en hunters (usada por ambos generos también), es decir existe  una exclusividad y la posibilidad de usarse en ambos sexos. Pero esto es solo mi opinión.

Siguiendo la corriente que establece ya el servidor por mera lógica a no ser que exista algo que yo no vea y me gustaría que me explicaran las razones detrás de ello, es el por qué no existe esa reciprocidad , ese equilibrio en la usabilidad de los items por generos y clases. Ya que en primer lugar las Psycho ravens debieron haber sido creadas como psycho mille para que fueran usadas por ambos sexos y se acaba ese problema de la exclusividad de generos, que ataca al principio de igualdad.

Hay algunas personas que justifican que la hunewearl no usa Mille Faucilles diciendo que:  no, porque ya tiene lindcry ¿y la hucaseal donde queda en todo caso?

¿Cuál es el argumento de que las lindcry sean solo usables por hunewearl en el caso de los hunters, y no los humar? ¿Es que acaso sería muy op? No lo creo si ya los hucast pueden usar psycho ravens lo cual es una groseria de daño, si los hucast ya estaban bien con las charge vulcan, vyse o charge/berzerk typememechgun.  He escuchado a la gente decir, que las mujeres hunters no dejan que usen las MF, porque ya existe las dual bird o las typememechgun charge, pero me pregunto ¿acaso los hombres no pueden usar esas 2 armas antes nombradas? seria el mismo argumento para los hombres y por ende entonces los hombres hunters no deberian usar las psycho ravens. Asi mismo con los humars acaso ¿seria muy “op” que usen las lindcry? Pero es que acaso ya no usan PR y SS que ambas tienen un daño elevado? Las SS tienen 4  tiros por combo. Una vez mas si nos vamos al equilibrio del servidor. Los argumentos que están detrás de esta decisión me tiene muy curioso. E incluso hay hucaseals que se conforman matando todo con SS jugando prácticamente como un ranger sin mencionar el DMC que tiene esa arma xD. Incluso @Fyrewolf5 dice que esa arma ni siquiera debería existir.

Conclusion

Así que fuera genial, al menos nos den la opcion de elegir entre lindcry o Serene swan siendo hunter no droids o la opcion de poder usar Mille faucillies en mujeres hunters especialmente en la hucaseal si se van con el argumento de que las hunewearl ya tienen lindcry. Recuerden que el servidor ha hecho arreglos o fixes para mantener el equilibrio del servidor como se hizo años atras con la Lk&38 pues se veian para que aquel tiempo fonewearl haciendose todo TTF "Tower to the future" solamente con la arma antes nombrada.

Postdata: les ruego no comenten groserías o insultos, vamos a tratarnos con respeto.  Por favor no estoy queriendo insultar, ni malponer las creaciones del servidor porque la verdad estoy siempre contento con las cosas nuevas que lleven al servidor hacia adelante y no hacia atrás. Simplemente si se puede hacer una observacion lógica que sea bien argumentada no hay mas alternativa que darle la razón. Les ha hablado Assface…

 

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(please this language is not my main i try to put it english so it would be more easy for you to read the post :D if some1 are able to give a better translation please help me ^^)

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Good evening to the entire Ultima server community, I send you all a greeting across the distance. The server has grown enormously, it has been filled with incredible people; some English-speaking, others Spanish-speaking, Brazilian, French, etc. I hope that my words do not offend anyone because it is not my intention to cause it. This has been my only server in the last eleven and a half years and I have been since the "Dark Meteor" had no combo, and even since there were the Game masters Blue, Hollybass, Younkou among others and before Martin alias "Mio "was GM xD. I hope you can stay until the end and read my review completely, without further ado, I'll start

 

 

In terms of equality between classes (Hunters, Rangers and Forces) and genders (men and women), it seems relevant to me that there is a balance between them from the point of view of the items that can be used on the Ultima server. A very clear hypothetical example that invites to break a principle of equality, it would be the case that the sonic team armor (best armor of the server) is usable only in men and not in women, this would clearly reveal a notorious inequality between genders.

 

Just as a norm is created, behind every norm there is an intention for which said norm was created, a reason that motivated it to be generated. Likewise, I invite the administrators who have the investiture and the information, Explain or give the "theorycraft" to call it somehow, which is the argument by which women "hunters" cannot use the Mille faucillies, and that the men if they can use the psycho ravens (weapon even more overpower than the MF). That in advance my personal opinion is that in principle psycho ravens should not be usable by hunters. Since the idea is that the best submachine gun is usable only in rangers. Likewise, the principle that the best bar or the best double sword is only usable by hunters is respected.  Here there is an intrusion and the class reservation with weapons is not respected, if it occurs and is respected in the vanilla as it would be for example a mille martreaux or a guld mile only usable in ranger (used by both genders) or a black kin bar or jizai in hunters (used by both genders as well), that is, there is an exclusivity and the possibility of being used in both sexes. But this is just my opinion.

 

Following the current that the server already establishes by mere logic unless there is something that I do not see and I would like you to explain the reasons behind it, it is why there is no such reciprocity, that balance in the usability of the items by gender and classes. Since in the first place the Psycho ravens should have been created as psycho mille to be used by both sexes and that problem of gender exclusivity ends, which attacks the principle of equality.

 

There are some people who justify that the hunewearl does not use Mille Faucilles saying that: no, because it already has lindcry ¿and the hucaseal where is it in any case?

¿What's the argument that lindcry are only usable by hunewearl in the case of hunters, and not by humars? ¿Could it be that it would be very op? I don't think so if the hucast can already use psycho ravens which is a crazy damage if the hucast was already fine with the charge vulcan, vyse or charge / berzerk typememechgun. I have heard people say that female hunters do not let them use MF, because there is already the dual bird or the typememechgun charge, but I wonder, ¿can not men use those 2 weapons before named? It would be the same argument for men and therefore hunter men should not use psycho ravens. Likewise with the humars, ¿would it be very “op” for them to use the lindcry? But is it that they no longer use PR and SS that both have high damage? The SS have 4 shots per combo. Once again if we go to the balance of the server. The arguments behind this decision have me very curious. And there are even hucaseals who settle for killing everything with SS playing practically like a ranger not to mention the DMC that has that weapon. Even @Fyrewolf5 says that such a weapon shouldn't even exist.

 

Conclusion

 

So it was great, at least they give us the option to choose between lindcry or Serene swan being hunter not droids or the option of being able to use Mille faucillies on female hunters especially in the hucaseal if they leave with the argument that the hunewearl already have lindcry . Remember that the server has made arrangements or fixes to maintain the balance of the server as it was done years ago with the Lk & 38 because they looked so that at that time fonewearl doing the hold TTF "Tower to the future" only with the aforementioned weapon.

 

Postscript: Please do not comment rudeness or insults, we will treat each other with respect. Please I am not wanting to insult or misuse the creations of the server because the truth is I am always happy with the new things that take the server forward and not backwards. Simply if you can make a logical observation that is well argued, there is no alternative but to agree with you. Assface spoke to you ...

 

 

 

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One gets Higher shifta / zalure so if both are played as solo they would be balanced 

As in party this is where i think most of the newer generation forget about the game , in the old days before it became a zerk fest . You would play the game in a roll healer , crowd control , and damage dealers. As a Hunerwearl you get a choice a Humar does not and that is play healer to support.

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I am unaware of L&K38 "arrangement"? Was it combo unlocked at some point?

 

Mille Faucilles restriction will not change, it is the only item I ever designed and put a lot of thoughts into it.
I always thought the existence of Psycho Raven and its class/gender restriction did not really make sense, but it was here before I even joined the server, I'm not going to nerf or change it for obvious reasons.
MF is weaker than PR but its special gives it another whole potential. Autolock, extended range (making it literally my favorite weapon of Ultima).
I don't want to outclass other existing items. Female hunters can use Dual Bird as you said, if they can also use Mille Faucilles, why would one ever use Dual Bird anymore?
So now, DB is weaker than MF or PR but there is still a good reason to have one. Rangers should keep some priviledges on ranger weapons.
As for Hucast PR... again I find it dumb they can use such op mechgun, but it's not going to be nerfed now after 10+ years. 

 

The Serene Swan was never meant to be that good.
It was supposed to have handgun range and/or some class restriction (other than Forces) but miscommunication happened, and a huge drama happened when we announced we were going to fix that, so Larva decided to keep it the (wrong) way it was.
So is it stupidly broken? Yes.

 

Now for Lindcray, I totally wanted to remove the humar restriction. I don't see a good reason to forbid it to humars.
Humar is underused class, mainly used either as a meme or by ignorant newbies who don't know how bad it is.
10 months ago I asked @Larva to decrease Lindcray MST requirement from 836 to 830 so at least Humar with max MST (which is already quite a big requirement) can use it but he said "No."
I don't know why "Lindcray vs Mille faucilles" is even mentionned though, those are totally different and not comparable weapons.

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L&k38 use to have combo unlock, its was broke more than the serene or other wep and most on hucast, i told larva to unlock it for male forces only and with a atp reduction. he just dont like my idea xd

 

And if you unlock lindcray for humars, i think its a good idea to unlock ultimas bringer for hunew.

It was the original idea ultima bringers only for humar and hunew no forces or rangers.

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2 hours ago, serverus said:

And talking about hunew why not make neis claw a real usefull wep, since its the only wep hunew has. 

She also has Heart of Poumn according to Wiki :rf-08: [It only looks cool tho .  _. ]

2 hours ago, serverus said:

im not saying make it a powerful broke just make it useful pls.

 

Maybe make It like Quasar staff: with 3 specific tech boosts, like Foie (with high% kind of like glide v.00 or more since It's on HUnewearl :cr-flying:) Gizonde and Rabarta :onion120: 

 

[I'd say to add a MST stat boost, but that also means better resta :rf-02: ]

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a couple of small requests:

2 male armor options with Fire resistance:

1 with maybe 30 EFR

and 1 with maybe 40 EFR

so you don't get totally destroyed by Epsilon if you don't have STA,

and can have with armor and barrier 70-80 EFR total;

I know you can equip c-resist, but sometimes you need extra slots for cure-units

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