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ok, here's why i complain as some of you say, then wanna dislike a comment of something YOU said, anyways.

Alright, for how long has that DAR been the way it was before this change? since i have been here, about a year now, the whole time i do believe. RIGHT after halloween ended, they change this, before the biggest 2 events of the year, of things that have an already hard drop rate. Since the drop rate is difficult in itself which im ok with, why change the DAR from 100 on something that drops a hard to get item, right before that event? Why not begining of the year? That's like a big f you from whoever did that move. 

So when you guys think people are crying, or bitching realize a forum is for people to discus things, vent, etc you guys saying something about us talking about stuff is complaining too, so first live by your own words before you judge, or say things about others, we're using it for that purpose its meant for, you guys are just trolling comments.

now ill quit saying something about it since i explained my grievance which to some you, i have no right to do. 

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 the reason I complain has nothing to do with me finding items , it has to do with a large amount of people not really finding alot , like d core for example: if more of them drop maybe the price would be more realistic  instead of offering 60+ dts and not even being able to get 1 for that price [ i literally traded a max zanba for a d core]   i offered dts couldn't get.. and why?? a direct result of them being extra hard to find this year. Dcore is acctully the only item i have a prob with this event as it was part for the original game was removed , now 3 weeks a year is the only shot at it and u cant even buy 1 for 60 dt , it was cheaper before the event started,  STA i understand its hard and is suposse to be, last year i played over 500 ttf with Dio , ona and many others, ending up finding on last day of event 10 min before it was over , i never worked so hard in my life for somthing so i def dont wannt see them droping to every 1 in 10 runs this year hah.

I feel that this can be resolved with out even adjusting the drops. 

 i would love to see a reworking of the donation list in 2018 , alot could be fixed and ultima would even gain more donation

for example if staff were to add an item like d core they set the price cap the second its on that list, no1 could sell it for more then the list price. so if its 30 dt on list players would charge 20-25. would take alot pressure off the players for these event items if they were on the list

newer players would prob donate more money to the sever if some of the more rare items were on the list also, so many new items have come out would love to see some on the list and would  donate for some myself more often . not saying to put every item on the list or anything just a reworking, maybe even like 1-2 items from each event added and the prices of current items looked at

theres 1 thing i think every player and staff included can agree on here is that many items here are sold everyday for alot more then they should cost.

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3 hours ago, Kraven202 said:

Ahh...well shit

RIP then...it was good while it lasted:cr-bye:

Actually Indi drop rates are better than they ever were before. People just have no idea what they are talking about and are latching onto a word without any understanding of what that word actually means. The bug that happened with individual drops was around for <1 month. It was fixed back to what it was before the bug happened. Then people kept complaining and we made the rate even better than it was before that month.

@David S. Wilson How many red boxes dropped in that HoD has nothing to do with it. That's a fundamental misunderstanding of what dar even is. You don't calculate dar by looking at how many red boxes dropped. Dar is about how many monsters dropped anything at all, not just red boxes. It doesn't matter if that run got 3, 30, or 300 red boxes. It's about how many regular drops happened. This thread isn't about dar at all.

 

As for other items not being seen enough, it's because people have overhyped sta too much and nobody is even thinking about hunting the other things. STA is only an armor, it's only defensive and it doesn't actually let you *do* that many things that you couldn't otherwise do. The best item to hunt in this event is Asteron Striker; it's far more useful and versatile than sta is. Even Hand of Justice is quite useful for hunters. I wasn't exaggerating when I said I've been seeing almost no asteron striker hunting rooms. It's almost criminal how much people are neglecting it. Everyone doing TTF when they could be hunting the ep2 or ep4 boss and getting other good things on the way to sta.

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8 hours ago, Guido Palau said:

idk, something is really wrong with this, and yes, you're right nobody wants to hunt even with happy hour, im going to take a long break till this shit gets fixed.

Y te recuerdo que decías que yo exageraba con este problema  :(

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8 hours ago, Fyrewolf5 said:

So, this thread actually has nothing to do with DAR then?

We had 2 sta drop in this hh already, as well as other banners. The issue isn't with droprates or with dar or anything like that. The issue is people not actually hunting and only complaining. I just saw you sit in lobby for quite a lot of happy hour too instead of hunting. If you were actually out looking for the things, then you would be getting them to drop. You would only have to put in minimal effort for an ultima mag. Sta is obviously going to be one that people shouldn't remotely expect to get every year without putting in hard work, but I can guarantee it definitely doesn't drop in the lobby where you were people are spending their time. Any other drop if you actually went to hunt it, then you would get it to drop quite easily. I've seen almost nobody actually hunting asteron striker at all this event, as if people forgot it exists. Does that mean the rate is too hard because there are no banners? or is it because there are literally 0 rooms hunting it (even sta, I've seen far less rooms hunting for it than in previous years, since the first day before anyone had a chance to burn out)? That's an item where the rate has never really changed and nobody ever thought it was too hard. But it won't drop if you don't actually go look for it.

 

Please stop saying this, this is broken. I do not talk about the "sta" and I do not care if that item should be very hard to find. The problem any "rare item" are taking too long to appear, it is obvious that there is a "failure" (although I honestly think the same as 09B066 .. that this happened before the 2 most important events .... well ... ).   For me the "STA", NAKAS CARD or the D-photon core can continue as impossible to obtain. But I repeat, all the items are showing very little or nothing. And that's not fun.

7 hours ago, Guido Palau said:

sta rate has been lowered a lot, but thats not the issue, i got an sta too, but all the drops in general are shit

I told you.

 

@Larva @Soly

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6 hours ago, CannaBeast said:

Nope, I've done over 500 sta runs and found nothing, but I'm saying this post will accomplish nothing bro

I´ve done 320runs (Including more than 20 hours of hh) on shared drops = and no STA yet........    plz 

I´ve done 100 runs on individual drop = and nothing (well sometimes i recive a monomate)  

I´ve done a lot of anothers runs for any event item and i just was found 5 asteron striker. (and 3 asterons was 0 status)

And that's all I found in this event already  ...

 

 

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1 minute ago, Ana G.5 said:

I´ve done 320runs (Including more than 20 hours of hh) on shared drops = and no STA yet........    plz 

I´ve done 100 runs on individual drop = and nothing (well sometimes i recive a monomate)  

I´ve done a lot of anothers runs for any event item and i just was found 5 asteron striker. (and 3 asterons was 0 status)

And that's all I found in this event already  ...

 

 

Please don't get me started, you've found more then me by a Longshot  

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6 hours ago, Stark 1 said:

Keep in mind STA is the best amor in the game with like 500dfp and 80 resistance to all. I wouldn't like it if everyone had one than the game would definitely be broken . these rates are good i'd say and i havent gotten anything. Cant complain though the armor is just to good to be easy to get . when PGF event arrives you same people will be complaining about its drop rate but its freaking PGF what do you expect :P

Just have hope and dont give up. It could take you 100 runs it could take 1000 runs but it's very possible .

The STA not is the real problem. 

I mean, I understand that this "drop" has to be difficult as well as the PGF or some other items.

But the problem is that we talk about all the items.

6 hours ago, David S. Wilson said:

im mainly talking about all the drops not only STA

 

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2 hours ago, Fyrewolf5 said:

Actually Indi drop rates are better than they ever were before. People just have no idea what they are talking about and are latching onto a word without any understanding of what that word actually means.

Sure, nobody knows what he's talking about, I guess we're all stupid or something? The individual drop is wrong no matter what you say.

2 hours ago, Fyrewolf5 said:

The bug that happened with individual drops was around for <1 month. It was fixed back to what it was before the bug happened.

 

This is a lie, I used the "individual drop" a long time ago, from long before your "month" and now it does not work as before (and I mean before the "bug")

In fact it has no comparison whatsoever ..

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3 hours ago, Fyrewolf5 said:

Actually Indi drop rates are better than they ever were before. People just have no idea what they are talking about and are latching onto a word without any understanding of what that word actually means. The bug that happened with individual drops was around for <1 month. It was fixed back to what it was before the bug happened. Then people kept complaining and we made the rate even better than it was before that month.

@David S. Wilson How many red boxes dropped in that HoD has nothing to do with it. That's a fundamental misunderstanding of what dar even is. You don't calculate dar by looking at how many red boxes dropped. Dar is about how many monsters dropped anything at all, not just red boxes. It doesn't matter if that run got 3, 30, or 300 red boxes. It's about how many regular drops happened. This thread isn't about dar at all.

 

As for other items not being seen enough, it's because people have overhyped sta too much and nobody is even thinking about hunting the other things. STA is only an armor, it's only defensive and it doesn't actually let you *do* that many things that you couldn't otherwise do. The best item to hunt in this event is Asteron Striker; it's far more useful and versatile than sta is. Even Hand of Justice is quite useful for hunters. I wasn't exaggerating when I said I've been seeing almost no asteron striker hunting rooms. It's almost criminal how much people are neglecting it. Everyone doing TTF when they could be hunting the ep2 or ep4 boss and getting other good things on the way to sta.

@Fyrewolf5 if Dar has nothing to do with it then talk to @Larva about it cause he asked both of us to only count the red boxes and i found 2 red boxes (spread needle and a 50hit slicer) and the mage found 1 throughout the entire quest and Larva didnt find a red box and we finished the entire mission even made larva take a badge XD and after that he asked us questions and was on his way. anyways forget about the STA and if dar had nothing to do with it then im sorry i made the wrong title but overall ain't shit dropping and trust as lazy as i am i actually been sweating blood and sweat in this hot ass kitchen/living room wasting my life away playing mission after mission just to kill bosses for meseta and pd (maybe a spell here and there) just to look for atleast 1 naka card, 1 sta, 1 d-core, just to find neither 1 (atleast one) item i am looking for and people know i can do missions fast af and for those who don't, luck is deff not playing its part for them either.

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rip my typo im tired af
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I don't know where all this started.
I mean, sure, the whole dar issue that made people get used to no dar penalty, but beside that, people even saying shared drops were broken too.

I did a comparison between our server and an original (not modified) tethealla server and both behave exactly the same, same overall amount of drops rare and non rare.
So there is no DAR failure or otherwise...
Also, in the original tethealla there were runs with just 1 or 2 rares in a whole quest run with 300+ monsters.

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And here I'm posting all the drops for Sonic Team Armor Since 2015, do you own counting. This year the drop it's harder than last year and still the drop amount it's very similar, and the event isn't over yet. But if you compare to 2015 that was even worse.  So yeah guy i don't know where all this started either as soly mentioned, but the drops amount are almost identical. Count it yourself.

 

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[11-26-2017, 09:47:48] GM 42168566 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: X-salada Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[11-26-2017, 10:15:10] GM 42168152 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Angel Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[11-26-2017, 21:39:14] GM 42179523 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: MagusX Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[11-26-2017, 21:45:39] GM 42177955 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Comet     Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[11-26-2017, 21:47:30] GM 42152297 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Glass  Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[11-26-2017, 22:25:36] GM 42190102 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: rukia Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[11-27-2017, 13:59:55] GM 42164763 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Sen   Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[11-27-2017, 14:44:58] GM 42188664 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Sungrey   Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[11-29-2017, 01:42:00] GM 42190326 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: laz-  Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[11-29-2017, 06:42:40] GM 42176902 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: L_Max Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[11-30-2017, 09:01:14] GM 42175117 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: katie Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[12-02-2017, 23:47:55] GM 42162710 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Kalorum Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[12-03-2017, 17:53:30] GM 42189449 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Xcotoco Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[12-04-2017, 01:21:43] GM 42181825 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Ni pa'  Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[12-05-2017, 13:13:15] GM 42091462 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Echo 1 Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[12-05-2017, 13:28:17] GM 42189094 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Kane      Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[12-06-2017, 11:18:55] GM 42147620 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Mistigri  Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[12-07-2017, 05:04:58] GM 42174534 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: sandorio Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[12-07-2017, 19:52:15] GM 42187817 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Epoch    Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[12-08-2017, 06:41:04] GM 42115785 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Seifer Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[12-08-2017, 12:25:59] GM 42184709 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: KaG Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[12-08-2017, 13:01:30] GM 42190959 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Dark JADE Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[12-08-2017, 13:55:15] GM 42188859 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Mhammer Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR!  
[12-08-2017, 16:05:54] GM 42173264 () made a global announcement:  CG[Ultima]: Vertigo Has Found A  C4SONICTEAM ARMOR! 

 

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