jdhenry124

Now that Christmas and anniversary event are over I want to revisit DAR and multi-logging, mainly because the last two events put these issues on full display to anyone who participated in the STA or PGF hunts. I'll start with my own personal experience in Christmas event. I killed a total of 270 HH olgas and didn't get a pgf to drop. I'm not bitter about that, I understood this was a possibility when the event started. I still had fun playing the event and the challenge of getting the hardest event drop in the game. What does bother me is knowing that I *could* have got the drop if I multi-logged like several other players did. Not only that, I would have gotten multiple PGFs. In my runs there were 5 other people that did get a PGF. There are a couple reasons I bring this up. #1. This is conceivably how many PGFs I could have ended the event with had I ran Seabed solo with multiple accounts. Now as much as I like a challenge, I like having 5 PGFs more. So the lesson any rational player would take away after their first Christmas event (especially if they didn't get the drop) is that their time is much better spent multi-logging Seabed solo than running open rooms for whatever random in the lobby wants to join. And if this is the take away for those who have participated in this event, and what players will do after their first year, then any concerns about how changing the DAR "crashing the economy of ultima" are silly. Because the players that really want a pgf can get a complete set in one event and all they need to do it level a character to ult on 4 accounts. And this is what many players did And #2. Many of the players that joined my runs either didn't have the gear for Seabed or didn't know the maps, or both. It's fair to say that these players probably would not have gotten a PGF if I was not there to guide them through seabed. So what are these players to do if I (and the rest of the veteran players who know that it's completely idiotic to try and get a PGF the normal way instead of just Soloing with 4 accounts) stop running open rooms and leave to block 2 and 3 to make the drop easier? They will be stuck running the crash-heavy RT that can take 25-30 minutes with newer players. The incentive for veteran players to avoid new players is a problem all year round, but when we are talking about items that are worth 300-450DTs, an amount that new players can't even comprehend amassing, then it becomes an issue that undermines any chance of the server growing. Not only are new players less likely to get quality drops because veteran players avoid them during HH, but they are also less likely to make any social connections with the community. This community is full of people that would be happy to help out new players, but as stated in point #1, has every incentive to avoid them. What's the threshold for caring more about getting something for yourself, rather than helping a stranger? For me it's 400 dollars. I don't know how this is even an issue to disagree about. multi-logging is a mechanic that BREAKS the game. PGFs are supposed to be the hardest drop in the game, but it's not really that hard to get several of them if you use multiple accounts. How is this any different than other methods that have been banned like boss warping? The only counterargument posted for not changing this is that adjusting the DAR would make the ROOM get the drop easier. There are zero players who view drops this way, that care if the room got the drop; they care if they got the drop. Of course it's nice to see a friend get an item they've been working towards, but another player having a dark meteor doesn't make me any better at the game. And I promise you that no one cares about other people getting the drop 5 and a half percent easier as long as they got it fair and square. What is annoying is knowing that you are grinding a PGF honestly and seeing people that you know are using multiple accounts getting the drop repeatedly. Shiida's revised drop rate being bemoaned as "making an easy game easier" feels like a joke considering you can boost your chances of getting any drop by 1.8-2.4x whenever you want. And when you compare this to the mild adjustments that Shiida proposed, it feels like these arguments aren't being made in good faith. I do hope this is resolved soon. I had fun in the past two events, but I heard repeatedly from other that "this is the last year I don't multi-log." The highlight of both anniversary and Christmas event was the first week or so when everyone was playing together and helping each other. There are people I played with at the start of anniversary and Christmas event who I didn't see after the first week of those events because they were spending the rest of the event using multiple accounts. And I can't blame them. Those players are now set for life on DTs and trade fodder and I'm the dope who spent over 300 hours in a video game in 2 months and got one STA to show for it.

Maybe making it level 199 would fix it. Since 3rd evolution mags only evolve on levels divisible by 5

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Spirit special slicer (Fleshies should be the only ones to be able to use thors hammer properly) with either extended range or 5 enemies instead of 4, and a boost to all or some of the zonde techs would make it a great alternative to slicer of vengeance (although probably superfluous)

Slicer animation would make sense. But the weapon would not be endgame viable if the special was RAzonde. It would be a cool collectors item but not much else. Maybe making the range much longer than regular slicers, or increasing the enemy count past the usual 4 might do the trick, but the RAzonde or GIzonde special would still be useless.

Are you hoping to max just one more weapon but don't have the NYCs? Do you have an NYC seller that only wants DTs and nothing else? Well I'm here to help you secure the 85 hit bombchu, just need those weapons that have been collecting dust in your bank. Looking for the following weapons with hit and max/near max enemy %: Banana cannon Ultima reaper Millie faucilles Sacred bow Asteron striker (only really need hit on this one) TYB Yas with hit, with or without demons Note: I have all of these weapons just not maxed. So just looking to get any of these for, at minimum, slightly cheaper than it would cost to sphere and add hit. The amount I'm willing to pay is based on the stats of your weapon, minus the stats of my weapon, and the cost of the difference. Ie. Im not going to overpay for these. Pm me the stats and how much you're looking for and we'll see if we can make it work

The reigning champion of deals is @Damothedevil buying up 99 NYCs for 99DTs and trading 198 of them for a max Dark Flow. What a legend

oh nevermind man, i was lookin for Dparts anyway and I misread. I already have a couple of these. Lol, yeah this shield is worth about 12-15 pds. its a tough drop

ill take this. I can log on when I get off work tonight to trade

cant you just run the quest on normal mode and rack these up pretty easy to use on ult hunts?

I found that HUcast can combo those mosquitoes with a SS and SD level 15 or higher. You don't even have to have native %, so hell is unnecessary I think using NYCs on AS is a good idea, just thought I'd share this

Maybe.

Isn't the chances of getting a 85 hit Yas in ROCT like the chances of meg thee stallion finally answering my DMs?

85 hit redeem tier list: A+: demons Yas 9k , serene swan - demons yas for obvious reasons, and serene swan is the best demons weapons (even tho its devils) for HUmar and HUney and while not as good as YAS 9k for rangers is still great option and has phenomenal utility on casts as well. if i only has 99 NYC i would redeem for one of these two depending on which chars I main A: Hell type/shot - everything dies, 10/10 B: Demons type/shot - situational but still very useful C Asteron striker, sambas fiesta, demons mechguns, Charge Yas - AS is the best hell weapon for HUs, has utility for Rangers as well, and the autoaim special is just *chefs kiss*. sambas fiesta and demons mechs are also solid choices but the range for both are ass. after making my own 80 hit charge yas I am really baffled by its popularity. its great for Falz and little else. if you regularly get 3 or 4 way PBs and have NYCs out the ass I guess its a fair choice D as in Dont redeem for these unless you are the Jeff Bezos of NYCs: charge TYB, Snow Queen, Bringers rifle IDK cause ive never used them: frozen/arrest fausts I myself will be redeeming for redeeming my NYCs for a 85 hit hug, cause I am in the zero-pgf club

mag cell triggers are determined by the type of mag it is, and cannot be changed like PBs can. so yes a preta would have the triggers that a normal preta would have

As soon as I get more PPP mags I can get on it. But I have a supply issue right now @R-78 🥺 Sato isn't a mag cell mag. All rare non-cell mags change appearance based on color. It's just most of the mag cell mags that dont

Just a little help for anyone using the mag redeem and unsure how to get the most from their NYCs. Here are some things to remember: There is NEVER a reason to use more than 15-20 NYCs on a single mag. If you want a 200 power or 200 mind mag do as follows: #1. Raise a 200 power/mind mark3 mag #2. Use 10NYCs and (if needed) the appropriate mag cell to change into the mag you want #3. Use 5NYCs to add a photon blast (ideally twins for power mags or not twins for mind mags since you'll only use for party PBs) #4. Use another 5NYCs if you want to change the color. Important note: the only mag cell mags that change appearance based on their color are puyo and Agaysta (and soniti and preta, but barely) *edit: ultima mag can also have different color lights, thanks @RocketTots If you want more than 1 PB you can have 199 power or mind and get either dolphin, snake, or healer. If you want 2 PBs and 200 power/mind, you can still just use an additional 5NYCs and add a second one. Never use NYCs for this, it's a total waste. You can sell the NYCs and have someone raise you a whole new mag for the same price. The only purpose that I can think of for this would be to make a crazy high (100+) defense mag, in which case.. *barf* If I'm wrong feel free to correct me but Ive raised every kind of mag you can imagine on this server and that's how I interpret these redeem values

How do I have a 10mb media limit on my posts but Kotta post a terabyte of onion heads on the forum and it's not a problem?

found this in one of my last seabed runs, dont have much use for it since I didnt get a PGF so adding it to the shop: Freeze Calibur +8 (25/40/0/0|75) if DTs didnt exist then I might have somethin here, but since they do I guess 50 pds 😕

Okay fair enough. Ashura mag cell also drops from Christmas presents, if he wants a PB he can use that**

He can use the mag cell at level 10 when the mag is 5/0/0/5 and he'll have a PB if he wants one

If you just started then I would suggest you save your pds and farm some Christmas presents and make a 195 mind sega genesis/saturn/dreamcast. All you do is feed it difluids until level 200. It's almost impossible to mess up

Some hell weapon recommendations would be nice for people new(ish) to the server. Hell weapon for boxes, squids, morphos, and red sinows: Rangers - hell type/shot: the range of this weapon makes it hands down the best option, but it is expensive - hell Srank needle: competent replacement for type/shot on RAmar/marl and costs only 15DTs vs 70 for max type shot. - Asteron striker: special has an auto-lock that makes killing multiple enemies easier than it would normally be on a single-target weapon. - Hell laser: cheapest option and will get the job done, just requires more skill and awareness from players Hunters - asteron striker - kiss of death: hell slicer - ultima reaper: this is not the best to use on the squids imo because you will miss regularly and get smacked, but if you get good at memorizing the spawns and placements it can work Force - megid: best and cheapest option for forces - kiss of death - sacred bow: really high base ATA and with enough hit it can be very effective in seabed Probably some others that I'm forgetting but these are what come to mind Important for casts to remember that freezing enemies reduces their EVP making them easier to hell. So use traps liberally Some other notes: If you don't have traps or frozen shooter wait for other players to freeze del depths before you attack Delbiters should be the first spawns you commit to memory because they are a pain if you don't. Freeze and demons are your friends. Serene swan for hunters is also a good option Also for the blue sinows players should bring a endgame mechgun with high machine %. PRs and MF with enough machine % can combo the blue sinows when they spawn before they get the chance to move and warp. If you don't have this you will need to freeze first

There's only 70 people on this server during events when HH is on, so of course no one is going to be doing challenge mode during that time. Before Halloween there were people running Cmode every night when I got on. I have been able to run Cmode whenever I want if I simply just ask people to play with me. Just like a quest that requires multiple people, Cmode requires some coordination to get a room up. I've never had any problem finding people to play Cmode with me, and specifically there's lots of guys on triforce that are always down to do Cmode with me. If you were able to spend the whole year "taking people through Cmode" it sounds like you didn't have much trouble either. Nakas aren't a problem. Maybe adding the option to use 1 naka to add a special to an existing Srank would be nice. But it's not like getting three is super easy. After I finally got my STA last event I spent a couple HHs just running barba and only averaged one naka per HH. So getting 3 can take up to 9 hours of HH