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I figured that any extreme changes would be difficult, hence the minor-ish changes. Not trying to re-invent the wheel, just hoping that this idea can get some traction and we can have one of the coolest weapons in the game be actually useable.

It's been two years, why not post this again... New weapon idea: Unlocked L&K38 Combat - Psycho Combat. Made by using L&K38 and a Psycho Black Crystal (or other modifier, take your pick). Would be reskinned in a black/red style. The idea is to have it locked to two specific classes, the HUcaseal and RAcaseal. Both of these classes tend to come up short when compared to their male counterparts in damage, so this suggestion is aimed at giving them a weapon with greater range to compensate. There's been a lot of suggestion that this would be ridiculously powerful, and has been tested before, but I did some testing of my own. With zero ATP, a max-atp HUcassy, no Shifta, and 0% attribute, an unlocked L&K38 does about 175 per strong hit. This means 875 per button push, and a full combo does about 2625 damage. For comparison, a HUcast with the same modifiers using a Psycho Raven will do 536 per strong attack, making it 1608 per button push, and 4824 per full combo. This was tested on an Arlan in ultimate, and I don't know if/how buffed the mobs are here as opposed to what I used. RAcassy has access to MFs as well, which have the autoaim that gives a bit of a lazy boost to it. I think the special range on those are about 130 compared to the L&Ks 170, but a disadvantage of the L&K38 is that if the target even twitches, it'll miss the damn thing. The aiming on it is really difficult compared to several weapons, and it has a longer recovery time than mechguns too. It's very difficult for me to get a proper DPS on them due to this. One bonus of the L&K38 is that it's not a mechgun. I feel that it's the only type of weapon I seem to use nowadays, if it's not PRs, it's MFs, Last Swan, Yasminkov 9ks, TypeME/Mechs, or even the Samba Maracas/Fiesta. Everything's a mechgun, unless it's a Dark weapon. I'd love some variety that isn't intentionally hamstringing my play. I'm also suggesting this because the L&K38 combat is an awesome looking gun that is criminally underused due to being locked. Additionally, it's a badass weapon that would be great for female characters, as some of their go-to weapons are covered in hearts and/or love connotations, which is a relic of 20 years ago. I'm more than happy to help out with balance testing on the server, if needs be. TLDR; - Combine to unlock L&K - Locked to HUcassy and RAcassy - Single-target poor-aim awesome looking gun.

This, honestly, was a really silly idea. The one drawback of a HUcast was that it couldn't attack at long range, and not only did it get that option, but it got it with an already powerful weapon. People are obviously going to vote for the strongest option, because if you offered 95% of the server a sword that killed everything in the current room in one shot, they'd take it. Rangers should have the advantage of range - it's in their name.

One of two. Can't decide which. Or, alternatively

I think you quoted the wrong post, but assuming you meant the changelog, yeah, it's not something that would have to be updated often. Admittedly, I'd personally like it to include new items, and when items do get changed, whoever did the change updates it so it's not a massive clusterfunk of people trying to find out what changed. When SS was changed, there was a huge chat in our discord as people went to test what classes it could still be used on, whether the stats had changed, whether the range had changed. And even then, the gun was different to what was intended, being accidentally locked from HU. If that info was added to a public log, there'd be a lot less confusion on the topic.

He was talking about the Serene Swan. L&K is already combo locked, why would he reduce the speed and combo lock it?

I posted a suggestion a while back about having a lead admin position, and whilst it got a lot of support, it ultimately didn't go anywhere. A lot of the current GMs I haven't seen for a long time - if at all. It'd be good to get some new blood in. I'd apply myself, but there doesn't seem to be any way to apply.

Additionally, hire a community admin. This person should co-ordinate with all the staff members and be the main mouthpiece for official info.

Apparently not. You don't care that people do testing, that people care about balance, you just want dumb overpowered shit for reasons like "it's manly" or "it's pimpin'". You don't care how the weapons would affect the game, you can't even do basic research to see whether weapons do have the things that you're claiming they do. You're literally the kind of person who shouldn't be listened to.

Last Swan doesn't have rifle range. It has handgun range.

A stickied public changelog would be nice. Saith mentioned to me a while back that the Angel Harp had been buffed, but there was nothing around to actually suggest to a wider audience that it had been. Additionally, with the SS nerf, it'd be good to see what has been changed without players having to find it all out themselves.

I feel like you're not really listening to me. To clarify - I want the L&K unlocked, as it's a super cool weapon. However, it also needs to be unlocked in a reasonable way that doesn't make it the be-all and end-all of weapons on the server. There's enough of a problem balancing twelve bullets from the Serene Swan - L&K does fifteen. Giving it to RAcaseal and HUcaseal is a medium position on the topic, and even then, it could be overpowered for HUcassy. You mention diversity in weapons, and that's kinda what this topic is about. As Lipelis posted on the front page, if SS becomes the best weapon, then HUcast+SS > Anything else with SS. There would be zero diversity.

Hey Larva whilst we're on the topic, would you consider the idea itself? I did a picture too.

Have you actually tested it out yourself, on a max level HUcast? I have. It's ridiculous. It cuts through things like they're made of wet tissue paper. Literally nothing is a challenge, because literally nothing gets the chance to shoot back. Do you know what I did? Lemme quote it - I took a long time testing and considering how best to get the weapon added to the game in an unlocked fashion that wouldn't have the community pissed off like it currently is over the Swan. You class lock it, you nerf it, you make it difficult to get, then maybe it can be added and made a part of someone's usual toolkit, instead of being the single weapon that everyone would use.

I mean, if we're quoting Saith, we should quote him directly. @Emewn @griffeni I've spoken to him a lot on the topic.

I'd point out a post on page one of this thread got edited due to language, and that was considerably worse than mud's post, which was deleted.

My main gripe is one specific HU class getting it. I'm happy for the rest to have it - I was pushing for HUcassy to get a longer range option anyway. I still am pushing for that.

All androids have traps, and at the end of the day, if males have like, 300+atp, or stronger weapons like Psycho Ravens, why would anyone bother playing the female?My idea was to give the females range, whereas males would have less range but more power - this would give an incentive to play both depending on what playstyle you prefer. What doesn't make sense is to give the strongest class in the game an even bigger advantage by allowing it to attack from rifle range.

Seeing as I've been talking to Saith a lot in the past about an unlocked L&K, the fact that 12 > 9 was seriously impressed on me, and that's why I've been pushing for an SS nerf from the beginning. I already have an issue with how the game is heavily biased towards certain classed (HU- and RAcast). I specifically tailored the idea towards two classes that could do with a helping hand (HU- and RAcaseal) and nothing happened in regards to that suggestion. The fact that this gun came out as it did, for every class and with the range it has, is ridiculous. Why play a HUcassy when a HUcast is better in every sense? Nobody'll bother. In the same vein, most hunters shouldn't have easy access to super strong range damage. If I want to play a ranger, I'll level a ranger.

I'm fairly sure he's joking.

If you look on the previous page, you'll see I quoted a few posts about this idea that I made a few months back. There were more posts, but the general gist is that if it is unlocked, it'll be nerfed and only for specific classes. Addslots are worth 1pd, so making them purchasable with meseta seems redundant. There are also a few quests with boxes that drop addslots specifically, so I'd rather point newbies in the direction of those quests so they can farm them as opposed to just buying them.

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EDIT: I even did a crappy skin idea by putting the skin for PR over L&K

exclusive /ɪkˈskluːsɪv,ɛkˈskluːsɪv/ adjective 2. restricted to the person, group, or area concerned. "the couple had exclusive possession of the flat" This weapon is not exclusive in the slightest.

Hey, and welcome! The offline version will give you main story quests - every so often you'll have to do some government quests to unlock more main story. For speed levelling, TTF (normal or Ultima) can be used as a boss rush to get experience fast. Apart from that, I'd recommend taking it at your own pace.