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Well, I won't say again about not nerfing the Serene Swan because that has already been said multiple times. But, if a nerf is about to happen, I beg for moderation to least do something coherent. What do I mean by being coherent? Make it a weapon that has a purpose to exist, is a improvement of something else, and adds something new to the playability. What I explained on my first post, the way another server found to make both unlocked versions of Master Raven and L&K38 Combat useful but at the same time, not game breaking was: nerfing its ATP, its ATA or its Grind, but, keeping the essence of the weapon. What's the essence of Serene Swan? 12 unique bullets (an hybrid of Master Raven + L&K38 Combat). Nerfing the essence of the weapon would ruin its purpose. As others mentioned, and Lipelis, for example: All FOrces already have: Lindcray/Bringer's Rifle/Ultima Bringer's - for long range option and Rage De Glace/Samba Fiesta - for close combat option. Rangers already have: Heaven Striker/Charge or Demon Yasminkov 9000M - for long range option and Psycho Raven (males) / Mille Faucilles (females) - for close combat option. Banana Cannon and Crush Cannon don't meet the criteria because although I consider them close combat options, they are shots, multi-target weapons. So, my suggestion is to keep Serene Swan being useable by Hunter classes only. That will already exclude Rangers and Forces from using it. Fortunately though, they already have plenty of options of weapons choice, so it isn't a big deal if they don't have access to SS. How to balance it? Lets look again at the 2014 SCHT changes to Master Raven and L&K38 Combat and compare to Last/Serene Swan: Master Raven Vanilla/Ultima PSOBB: +380 ATP, +52 ATA (150 ATA req), +5 MST, can be grinded to +9, combo locked. 2014 SCHTHack: +118 ATP, +42 ATA (150 ATA req), +5 MST, can be grinded to +9, combo unlocked. Lord's special Only males can use Master Raven. Fires 9 bullets per combo. L&K38 Combat Vanilla/Ultima PSOBB: +250 ATP, +40 ATA (145 ATA req), -30 EVP, can be grinded to +25, combo locked. 2014 SCHTHack: +80 ATP, 0 ATA (145 ATA req), -30 EVP, no grind, combo unlocked. Burning special All classes can use L&K38 Combat. Fires 15 bullets per combo. Last Swan +90 ATP, +32 ATA (150 ATA req), +5 MST, can be grinded to +9. Lord's special Only females can use Last Swan. Fires 9 bullets per combo. Serene Swan 175 ATP, +37 ATA (170 ATA req), can be grinded to +80. Devil's special All classes can use Serene Swan. Fires 12 bullets per combo. Serene Swan could probably use the same kind of improvement. To make it equivalent to Master Raven (9 bullets) in terms of damage output, it would need at least 90 ATP. Suggestion: Make it grind to +40 only or remove the grind and keep the base ATP to 80-90. Personally, I suggest 100-150 ATP at least, because otherwise, it would be just slightly better than Last Swan. Means it would be questionable to look for this item if Last Swans with lots of status are so easy to get on Valentine's Event, whereas Serene Swan isn't. So, Serene Swan is still way too good on HUcast/HUcaseal compared to their counterparts, HUmar and HUnewearl. How to fix this? Gives it a special that could be exclusively useable on those classes = Spirit That way, HUcast SS = HUnewearl SS (Special attack) = HUmar SS (Special attack) = HUcaseal SS An example of this is the Rainbow weapon concept used on SCHT. Also, Spirit is probably the best special choice because: Makes SS being desirable to use on HUmars: He is the 2nd best ATP character in game and for that only reason, would make it the best weapon for that forgotten class since long time Makes SS being desirable to use on HUnewearl: Due to its high TP and an interesting alternative to Lindcray Isn't harmful to the game balance, when used on Androids like HUcast and HUcaseal (who could reach the 2nd place in best ATP if using Sue's Coat) Rifle range vs. Handgun range About the range... as R-78 revealed on previous posts: Mechgun Range : 85 (including Psycho Raven) Handgun Range : 170 Rifle Range : 210 There's a great difference between Handgun and Rifle range. Is nerfing the range on Serene Swan that big deal? Could Serene Swan be the perfect rifle range weapon Hunters were needing? Hunters doesn't have that many rifle range weapons compared to their counterparts. Their options currently are: Lindcray - Useable only by HUnewearls. Spirit special. HUmar, HUcast and HUcaseal can't equip them, since the MST requirement is way too high. Asteron Striker - Meant to be used for Hell special, but the damage output is really low and it is in general, a slow weapon. Eggblaster Mk2 - Strong weapon, but really slow due to the nature of their bullets Water Gun - Its usefullness relies in having any special, but it is in general not meant for damaging enemies because it is a slow weapon and the ATP is low as well. Its ATA was nerfed as well, meaning there are other weapons could be potentially more useful than WG. The biggest weakness the Hunters have in combat (specially on quests like Tower) are ranged attacks. Not only they need to reach close to their enemies to unleashed their attacks, but also evade and position themselves correctly to not get sniped by one hit kill enemies. Example of this are Mericarol/Merikle/Mericus plants, Purple Shielded Epsilons, far away enemies that can't be easily reached by walking. Hunters are also missing a fast and strong weapon to clean room leftfovers. This is specially important on quests like ToD (Tower of Dreams) by R-78, CCC (Cal's Clock Challenge) by Lemon, PPP (Power Plant Plight) by Lemon, ROW (Realms of War), RoCT (Raid on Central Tower), Maximum Attacks quests in general, where a single enemy left, floating in the room, means wasted time. Serene Swan may be the perfect weapon Hunters were needing for this purpose. Hunters, as well as Forces, already have a great disadvantage regarding the use of ranged weapons. They need Smartlink unit to remove the ATA penalty they naturally have on the ATA vs EVP check when dealing attacks. This unit is a must and means those classes only have 3 units lefts for whatever purpose they need. Maybe, 2 units if you consider you will be always wearing Centurion/Battle. That already puts Rangers in a great advantage regarding unit flexibility. That's the reason I personally would leave rifle range and the twelve bullets as something unqiue and exclusive to this weapon. Why four (twelve) bullets? Because there is a great difference between SCHT's Centurion/Battle (50% Speed) and Ultima's Centurion Battle (110% speed). Comboing with Last Swan (3 bullets only) is very hard and difficult to keep the timing with proper combos. The addition of one more bullet is what solved this problem, makes the combo much more smoother, easy to keep and feels synchronized with Ultima's Centurion/Battle speed. And there's a technical reason involved as well. Rifle range wouldn't be possible with three bullets only, like the Last Swan pattern. TL;DR - In a nutshell, my suggestion for the revamped version of Serene Swan would be: Serene Swan 100 ATP (0 base ATP) , +37 ATA (170 ATA req), can be grinded to +50. Spirit special Rifle range Only Hunters can use Serene Swan. Fires 12 bullets per combo. This is my last suggestion. As others said, with all the feedback we got on this page, I think the server's administrator and the staff got more than enough options and ideas to make a great choose, while keeping the player base happy with the result. And hopefully, a decision is taken after all and maintained until the end of Ultima's existence. We all seek for transparency and reliablity. People spent hours of their lives farming this weapon. People spend their well earned Photon Spheres to make it stronger. People spend their own money, Donation Tickets, to increase its accuracy. I root for staff to make a wise choice. That said, this is the last cent I throw on this topic. I really hope we don't get disappointed with the outcome. I see your point, but at least on my mind, Serene Swan and Psycho Ravens are two completely different weapons, different types, different ranges, different purposes and so on. It is almost the same thing as comparing Heaven Striker to Mille Faucilles, for example. Weapons of different parts will never replace each other, and I feel that's the case here.

Thanks everyone we have enough inputs now, I think we can get to a decision with all this. I will close the topic, so we don't get in to circles here.

This point here is what I find annoying. Nobody is forcing anyone to play as Hucast. You could easily use the same weapon on any other class and be relevant I think you should post a video of SS in action in something like R-78 new quest. That range means nothing without enemies being stunned / frozen. yeah you might be able to 1v1 a meri but we all know that that isn't even a realistic scenario. Also why dont you compare how many shots it takes to kill the same enemy with the other hunter classes? with maxed ata atp luck??? Im pretty sure its 1 less bullet fired.... It's not just about refunding the dts spent on this weapon to max its stats though? What if you traded something of high value in order to obtain the right ammount of dts to max out SS stats, whereas you would not have traded If the weapon didnt exist in the first place? Are you going to be reinbursing for that? I dont think you have even thought that far. Just leave the damn thing as it is. The 5 people that think it should get nerfed can bank their SS and use something else. Between hucast and hucaseal its 1 bullets difference using the scenario from the video and that is still 2 combos... what is the damn issue? I dont understand how a topic can resurface and trigger you when you stated you were not going to do anything.

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Another drawing, this time got the idea while listening to Point of No Return, part of the Eschatos OST- Enjoy!

Seems like this has devolved into "Disgruntled players vs Ultima Staff", so here's my two cents. I've been a forum mod. I've been a staff member for a gaming website. I've looked over chat logs to scour for evidence and offenses, hosted servers for games and had to judge things concerning nitpicky differences about fair play for everyone, pushed too far over little things... a fair few things staff members here seem to have to do, too. Larva, I'm not fond of you. You appear inconsistent as could be about activity and care, and I fundamentally begrudge anyone at the top of a ladder who doesn't show more zeal for their job than the people they lead. However, you also have one of the most thankless kinds of jobs in a situation like these as head of operations, and have shown you're not simply out to trample over others by acting immediately on whims, despite having little concern about stepping on toes. (And let's be frank, a few of the most popular people here have as little concern about the same thing, so it's not an insult.) As much evidence, theorycrafting, and feedback has been given by people who recognize the many strengths and few balance issue weaknesses the weapon has, I'm sure you and whatever number of staff members you talk with have enough to go by to avoid over- or under-tweaking the weapon. You can probably tell, the community cares about balance and fun. Please try not to leave them out of the equation about things like this; small communities thrive on transparency. As for the weapon itself: Please don't Water Gun down the Swan. Your community clearly has a lot invested in it.

we already have master raven though? whats the point

Here is the trailer. What do you guys think? My fiance and I put a couple hundred hours into The Witcher 3 so we will definitely be watching!

I have a question. If SS gets nerfed, which it was stated earlier in the event that it would not be changed, isn't that a little unfair for people that have spent time hunting them since that would devalue the item or make it totally worthless? I have personally spent much of the event hunting one with hit. It'd be nice to know what's going on so I can either keep hunting SS or focus on other worthwhile items like Cent/Battle. Thanks.

for those who always complain about shit around here I have a solution for you . Leave ! Plain and simple. I’ve experienced this place without the toxicity and it’s fucking great.

Honestly at this point people need to look within themselves, If you are full of keyboard warrior rage, then you leave no room to listen. @jezbuz and @Noob Saibot have gone above and beyond for this community and deserve the upmost respect, their opinions are as valid as everyone else's here and threats of a bans and getting cursed at are ridiculous and uncalled for. I know as leadership you become a target sometimes but you must be better then that and prove yourself with your actions and feedback to build trust in your community. You must be the example, nobody is perfect but if your in a position of power you must know that people are looking up to you to make just decisions and be fair. Good luck folks. I am done with this topic as its becoming a teenage wasteland. Cheers.

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How dare you..?

Ah, thanks a lot! I'll make sure to post more often here then!!

You're pretty good! I look forward to seeing more of your work.

Nice thanks for the Wedding Dress too Capo!

@toxic 1 grinder is indeed 2 ATP!

No problem!

Even if I'm not suppose to give my own opinion (as a well-known Minecrafter would say)... Here is another two cents to add to this (very HOT 🔥🔥🔥) topic so after reading all the previous pages, my new suggestion is; Serene Swan 160 ATP (grinders included) Grinder: +80 37 ATA 170 ATA required Special: Devil Animation: Handgun 12 shots (3x4) Range: Handgun All classes The idea would be to still cover a lot of situations with the handgun-range and 160 final ATP to shine with Buffs or PB with this 12 shots weapon. And if I want to kill my target faster, I will have to reach the mechgun-range to access to one of the several powerful mechs available, which makes sense to me since the risk is higher on closer range. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - By the way on a sidenote and drama aside; I also wanted to thanks all the players that provied their ideas in a constructive way so far. I's a proof that the community cares about what is happening to Ultima. I refuse to be part of a dying server @mudkipzjm! owo

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@Noob Saibot Eggblaster mk2 is handgun range not rifle range. Even tho it has rifle animation. Also Centurion battle doesnt affect either Last swan or Serene swan at all, in fact the speed is the same with or without battle units equiped. But at the same time they also dont get affected by the slow motion status effect like in that MOTV room. Please dont nerf the gun but if you do just make it female only and keep it the same. However if you do that, would it be posible to water down Master raven's atp and combo unlock it for males? They really need a consistent and reliable ranged weapon. Real talk about HUcast + SS....the problem isnt the weapon but rather HUcast himself. On all the other HUs the weapon is fine as it is or even mediocre since on the others it needs good SD to work (specially on HUney) the problem here is that ANYTHING HUcast uses that relies mainly on the character's base atp is gona be good on him while being garbage on everyone else. This includes stuff like Crush cannon, charge/zerk mechguns, charge sup gun/water gun, Charge diska/DoB and just generally weapons with low atp. The diference with this kind of weapons between him and the others is huge and this is because the diference between his atp and the others is also huge. HUmar has the second highest atp and its still 230ish atp behind his while the other two are 330 for hucasy and 400ish for huney. Imo its time to stop comparing the others so much to him and stop balancing stuff so much around HUcast only while ignoring all the other HUs cause then youre gona end up with one class with decent gear and 3 with garbage. Further cementing him as the best HU. So if you nerf this gun the ones that are really gona suffer are the other HUs not him. Specially HUmar, even if no self-respecting decent human being plays him, he needed a good long range weapon, as its one of the things his equipment was missing. Just focus on what each class does best and its role instead of trying to play every class the same way cause no matter how hard you try the other classes will always fall behind hucast in terms of dmg. But not with the things THEY can do. Like demons and support for the fleshies and HUcasy being able to use specials more reliably. Stop trying to play every character the same way and approach your role differently with each class. So yeah...im against the nerf uwu

Maximum attack S is harder but has 50 Gibbles.

Bump

Have you ever tried sues coat on hucaseal? People disregard armor boost because they are so fixated on STA and dark weapons. Hucaseal is a monster, with her ATA she can hit everything without missing as much as hucast can. I agree everything you said on racaseal, they need love but people should really look into it with more depth when talking about hucaseal because they been using it wrong apparently. I think hucaseal in most cases shines more than hucast. You put sues coat on and adds an extra 100 ATP. That puts her at #2 of ATP above humar and with macho blades SD +7 puts her in a really competitive spot and let’s not forget her ATA.

I don‘t really want to enter this whole drama thing, but i want to leave something (my opinion) - back to the intention of this post there are a few hunters in the shadow of their bigger ones like HUcaseal (< HUcast) and RAcaseal (< RAcast> i think SS should stay as it is, and should only be usable for those two Hunters, RAcaseal & HUcaseal they lack in having a really strong and good single DPS weapon if you check other classes: HUcast got Psycho Ravens HUcaseal got Last Swan, Mille Faucilles, Dual Bird HUney got Lindcray HUmar got PR Rangers got C/D Yas 9000 - overkilling anything FO‘s got multiple things like: Lindcray, Bringers, Banana Cannon, SoF, Samba Fiesta, Rambling May, etc. HUcaseal and RAcaseal have way less ATP then their bigger ones (RAcast & HUcast) but in my eyes they profit the most out of SS, with SD they got a weapon that ALMOST hit as hard as RAct/HUct would do with PR‘s i mean if you play as RAct or HUct you would have to get close up to enemies but then you can pull out a ton of DMG as HUcl/RAcl you wouldn‘t have to get as close as their bigger ones but probably could kill enemies as fast as HUct/RAct, because they need some time to get close up thanks for reading, im out of here, just wanted to give my two cents about the weapon 🤷🏼‍♂️

I feel like you're not really listening to me. To clarify - I want the L&K unlocked, as it's a super cool weapon. However, it also needs to be unlocked in a reasonable way that doesn't make it the be-all and end-all of weapons on the server. There's enough of a problem balancing twelve bullets from the Serene Swan - L&K does fifteen. Giving it to RAcaseal and HUcaseal is a medium position on the topic, and even then, it could be overpowered for HUcassy. You mention diversity in weapons, and that's kinda what this topic is about. As Lipelis posted on the front page, if SS becomes the best weapon, then HUcast+SS > Anything else with SS. There would be zero diversity.

Hey Larva whilst we're on the topic, would you consider the idea itself? I did a picture too.

Como deverian de jugar todos lol

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Feel free to ban me if you wish. I couldn't care less honestly. You would do me a favor doing this. Go ahead. Isn't what you always do? Threaten to ban people (even though it is a joke)? This is how grateful some persons from Ultima are for everything I contributed to the server. Amazing. I always give constructive criticism when I try to prove my point. And now, I'm being threatened to be banned. Do you really know the context? I find hypocrite the fact his (@mudkipzjm's) post was censored (for whatever reason) when the server's administrator isn't even using the best or the most respectable of languages with someone that simply gave a constructive criticism. That's not an appropriate language for a leader. I fail to see how @jezbuz's post deserves such an aggressive answer from Larva. And I'm really thankful that persons like @Soly are part of staff. Thank you for being coherent with the context of the situation, and for everything you do for Ultima daily. @C01D1 used words that I couldn't describe better. He said everything I also think about you and the other staff members like @R-78. I truly appreciate everything you both do for our server.

You guys: "please make new weapons that are good" GMs: *makes a good weapon" You guys:

Thank you Soly, Truly you maintain a professional and transparent demeanor. You are example for others to emulate, all we want as a community is leadership that listens, we all choose to be here. If you have to beat your chest say your in charge you never are... You need to be in charge of yourself first in order to lead. Appreciate the candid feedback and honesty. Cheers.

Honestly, trying to scare people isn't a good idea either.

I'd point out a post on page one of this thread got edited due to language, and that was considerably worse than mud's post, which was deleted.

I would like to know why @mudkipzjm's post was deleted/moderated/censored for saying something against the administrator behavior, while the real agressive and demagogic content on this topic started with @Larva's response: Leaving a copy of the response here. So are we gonna start deleting/moderating thoughts that could be harmful to the server's public image? Such hipocrisy.

Ooh sorry @Larva no habia leido la pregunta 😝 mi team se llama SenshiTeam lo cree hace poco más de medio año. Está constituido de gente latina y estadounidense, y algún europeo por ahí. A diferencia de algunos teams tóxicos que llenan de dislikes a incautos, nosotros preferimos jugar en armonía

S> Serene Swan 30/0/0/0 10dts

IMO, since HUmar already has access to Pyscho Ravens and having the 2nd highest ATP in the game, SS being exclusive to them isn't the greatest of ideas. SS already kind of balances itself out since you need SD to have it even compete with PRs, which makes it not as great of a choice when playing solo or without a force. If a nerf were to be considered, I don't think handgun range would be a bad idea. Having a combo-unlocked MR-type weapon for males still makes it worth having around. It's definitely one of the more broken items, but when you have things like PRs, STA, Combo-unlocked DM, yas 9k with special, and other things, it kind of just blends in with the rest of the OP items on Ultima. That being said, it REALLY doesn't need buffed in any way like I've seen some request. No special/atp/ata changes please.

How about an armor that follows the Nimaidou series for HUs with built-in cent battle ? Stats could be something like 250 dfp and evp and 20 or so to each resist

Somos varios miembros del staff que hablamos español. El foro solia esta devidido por secciones de lenguaje. Pero decidimos unificar Todo. Español oh Ingles y portuges son Los lenguajes que mas manejamos, solo postia en El idioms que quieras y tendras la ayuda que necesites.

Not sure if you guys were already considering do this or not. Please make Serene Swan female only. Males DO NOT need it, and is broken on classes like HUcast.

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