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First of all I’d like to state that I’m very grateful for the work from the volunteers team of Ultima put into PSOBB on their free time so let’s keep those words in mind while we share messages and opinions together. I don’t usually create discussion topics, however I’m concerned by the new ranged weapons implemented for hunters in the 10th Anniversary Event, they have a lot of potential but feel restrained in a frustrating way. That's why I'll review the transformations of Panzer Faust; Arrest Faust & Frozen Faust obtainable with Arrest Booster & Frozen Booster respectively. Let’s start with the droprates available for the combiner required to make Arrest Faust ⎋: Olga Flow ⏤ Arrest Booster 1/256 Kondrieu ⏤ Arrest Booster 1/292 (same droprate as SonicTeam Armor) Since it’s a rare new item droping from final bosses we can agree that is coherent to except originals or impactful features from it with such a difficult droprate. While I'm writing this message the current state of AF (Arrest Faust) is: Arrest Faust 210 ATP 60 ATA 100 ATP required Special: Arrest Animation: Shot No grind Auto-Aim Single-target HUmar, HUnewearl, HUcast, HUcaseal & RAnger Now, this is how AF is doing compared to the other Ultima’s exclusive guns and vanilla ones; - Morolian Blaster is more powerful, faster and with longer range: 280 ATP 60 ATA Special: Arrest Animation: Handgun Single-target HUmar, HUnewearl, HUcast, HUcaseal - Holy Ray is more powerful, more accurate, faster, with longer range and available all year round at 2⁄73 on Sil Dragon: 290 ATP 70 ATA Special: Arrest Animation: Rifle Single-target HUmar, HUnewearl - Arrest Raygun 50 hit is more accurate, faster and available all year round in Restless Lion: 150 ATP 85 ATA Special: Arrest Animation: Handgun Single-target HUmar, HUnewearl, HUcast, HUcaseal I’m mostly talking about AF as it’s the one i tried, but FF (Frozen Faust) suffers the same problem, anyone would pick a Blizzard Raygun 50 hit or Water Gun (+ special) for the rifle range. I’m probably missing more exemples but those shows already how much affordables alternatives are available that outclasses AF & FF in multiple aspects, even off-event. The auto-aim feature from Panzer Faust is there which feels nice but does it justify the hunt? With those kinds of droprates you could get a SonicTeam Armor instead, just think about it… Currently new fausts are missing a speciality or perks that really differentiates them from other single-target guns. So let's clarify the purpose of those hunter's fausts at the beginning with concepts from the creator himself in the Unreleased Weapons section ⎋ (you can also read the original concept of Ultima's Bringer😞 - kajex, 2015 "Arrest Needle & Frozen Shooter for hunters with multiple targets." Iron Faust is one of the most iconic weapon of PSO then seeing a brand new version handled by a hunter is truly mesmerizing. So while keeping it balanced in ATP & ATA to respect the other classes, the crowd control stay the main point of satisfaction. So back to 2018 with the two weapons finally out, does it mean that the single-hit target aspect is still a technical restriction or perhaps is it a choice? And above all, can we except an update in the future by knowing that someone is working on the multi-targeting addition? In a second note : the way donation tickets (real money) are managed is none of my business as long as the server stays alive, maybe investing in some programming/coding services could be beneficial for our beloved PSOBB. Even a public call to the community could potentially bring more talented people to work with the team. @Larva can you share your thoughts with us? Since the 10th Anniversary Event is still active some positive feedbacks from the people working on those weapons would be greatly appreciated and could motivate more player to hunt the new boosters. I hope this topic enlightened some questionables points to the one who were wondering what those weapons were made of to judge if they wanna put some time in grinding Respective Tomorrow before the Christmas Event or not. Meanwhile don't forget to complete the poll to show us your opinion, thank you! Note: Ultima's Bringer and his piercing feature from the original concept is also included in the poll. Cheers!

So my opinion on this is that the design it's not good enough not even interesting. The items don't have to be broken or too strong to be worthy. They need to add something to your playstyle, like bomb-chu (this was a really cool and interesting design and add something to the playstyle and not broken at all). About the new panzers It could be an option for people that have low/mid tier gear, but as stated before, they aren't interesting enough and the rates don't reflect the usefullness of the item. I mean, if i was starting playing now and needed gear i wouldn't even think about investing time and effort to get any of those items, because they are really hard to get and i could simply replace them with whole year obtainable items and way cheaper in time and money (1/200 ish in a final boss, its damn difficult). Another thing that you must note, is that panzer faust drops with low stats. I think that it's programmed to be like that. This means that your arrest/frozen faust will be expensive for you, when you have better options that lipelis stated well and way cheaper. I don't agree with them being multi-target, that would be a bit broken and i don't like broken weapons. I think the problem is more with the concept/design and their droprates. They should be moved to another Mob other than a final boss, with a better rate (like lindcray for example. And lindcray is a god tier weapon and has a fair rate, fair stats when dropping, etc). About Ultima Bringer, i don't know what to say. The concept, the usefullness and the rate are in the same line as the previous ones. Bringer's rifle its a way better option in terms of raw power and price and also obtainable during the whole year and easier. You don't miss that megid boost, because it's not exclusive at all, since some other weapons have this. Also, bringer's rifle it's usable in more classes. I really don't have opinion on making the demons pierce, but i think it could work and not be broken. In my opinion, the weapons should stay as they are, but where they drop and the rate at which they drop, should be changed in the future events. EDIT: Also forgot to add: You could simply use a boomerang or a s-rank arrest j-cutter with 0 hit SNS glitching, and having way better results than using a Arrest Faust (not to talk that you probably have to add hit on it). The same thing can be done with a blizzard s-rank j-cutter instead of a Frozen Faust.

Won’t be surprised if they show up on Destiny with all the other stolen weapons XD

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Unpopular opinion: I don't think the new Fausts should be multi-target and also usable on Hunter, just sounds way too broken. Ultima Bringers should be able to pierce though, was hoping it'd be an upgrade since I've got an 80 hit regular bringers lol.

Paying 100 dts for a chargue 0/0/100/100|80 ten years blade

I will do it for 60 STAs

I would really give a chance to Destiny if I didn't played for so many years here and got burnt from PSO. They surely have cool ideas. Also, you can't technically say 'stolen' weapons just because they look similar, they have a different approach to the item conceptions and hey, they have well respectable ideas, they managed to make a lot of improvements to the PSO code and it is even more impressive knowing it is a fresh new server. They were even able to code weapon types that were 'technically' impossible, like multi targetting Double Sabers, Ultimate Double Cannon wavy special and so many other cool stuff. We can say they "stolen" "our" ideas, but we can't belittle what Destiny managed to do for PSO. But yeah, I may probably end my PSO career on Ultima only lol And back to the topic discussion, I really hope you guys from high staff adds improvements to the Ultima Bringers (piercing features) and the Fausts (multi-targetting).

Repurposed the thread, these are the items I'm currently looking for: Rage de Glace 40+ hit and ab/n or m/D (Will consider a max one if that exists) Crimson Sword with hit and stats (also will consider max) S-reds Tension Blaster with hit Suppressed gun with hit and stats (native dark or machine dark And PGF/Dark Meteor/Dark Flow (Trading STA+DT or STA+Items) Will add more as I want em

+ New items added ✨ Centution/Battle, Heaven Punisher, Adept, Banana Cannon and more

keep it respectable

The only thing i can say atm is @MadOrNah

I would just like to say that I appreciate that we can all come together as a community and have a comprehensive discussion about a certain topic while being respectful and it's one of the reasons I love this community so much (even if we all don't always agree on everything). I'm very happy to be a part of it and I thank everyone for their thoughts comments and ideas about this topic. PS: I think the idea of a piercing Bringer's Rifle is very exciting /edit

I've sent out PMs to those who have not submitted round 1 results. If you are waiting on one of these matches to determine your opponent, you will receive extra time to complete round 2.

Myself and Ipol will do ours this evening time difference is making it hard to organize

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Still looking for Chrisnl

Sorry lied. They can now. I was informed this morning they couldn’t yet but I guess they found s way. GL DUDE

B> Demon TypheSH/shot 80 hit. offering 60 dts for it. Pm me

It ain’t multi hit double cannon but we can’t all be super broken XD

Now that the sword has been reveled, I would like some feedback about the sword. And by feedbacks I don't mean trash talk for the trolls.

available now

@Lemon Thakugan forfeited and dropped out of the tournament. https://imgur.com/a/coEgebt

There is nothing interesting about the Ten Year Blades.